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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:37 pm

the wicked child wrote:I'm going to wait until I hear his side of the story to judge.


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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby ulf on Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:42 pm

He got benched and didn't show up at the game. What could there be to hear? And no, this isn't celebrating by any stretch of the imagination.
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:44 pm

I think it was a joke re: his tweet and bin Ladin
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby ulf on Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:49 pm

:facepalm:
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby ulf on Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:49 pm

wow that was embarrassing.
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby JS© on Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:53 pm

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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby ulf on Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:56 pm

yeah i knew the tweet, no need for the salt in the wound :/
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby the wicked child on Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:49 pm

I won't pour salt on the wound. I can't hate someone I've never even heard speak.
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby JS© on Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:09 pm

Is that Mark Henry in the third RT square?
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby TheHammer24 on Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:32 am

The hilariousness of the Mendenhall tweet is it's progression.

Line 1: Minority view, but fair point.

Line 2: Well, I don't think you need to see Osama to know he deserved to die.

Line 3: :shock:
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby blackjack68 on Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:13 pm

JS© wrote:Is that Mark Henry in the third RT square?



It certainly appears to be.
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby Dickie Dunn on Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:13 pm

He's not without his faults, but Tomlin is one of the best coaches in the NFL. He will likely finish his career with the Steelers as the 2nd best coach in franchise history, and with a little longevity can very well end up regarded as the best coach in franchise history. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs a reality check.
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby mac5155 on Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:20 pm

Im not even a 1970s yinzer but unless tomlin wins more super bowls than Noll which is doubtful there's no way he will be considered the best coach in steeler history.
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby Troy Loney on Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:23 pm

Right, like what he's saying calling Tomlin the second best coach in franchise history.
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby slappybrown on Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:23 pm

Dickie Dunn wrote:He's not without his faults, but Tomlin is one of the best coaches in the NFL. He will likely finish his career with the Steelers as the 2nd best coach in franchise history, and with a little longevity can very well end up regarded as the best coach in franchise history. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs a reality check.

I think the next 3-4 years will be telling in terms of good of a coach Tomlin is. The core of his Super Bowl teams were, for the most part, the players drafted/developed under Colbert/Cowher's watch. Colbert has a phenomenal track record in the first round, but Hood in particular and Heyward to a lesser extent have some question marks. This team will look drastically different next year in all likelihood -- Mendenhall, Harrison, Wallace, Starks, Foote may all be gone for one reason or another. He's had some issues throughout with game management/challenges now and again, but nothing outrageous. But it feels like this season he's been a bit out of control with the benchings, player management, and game management. Rare that you see a Steelers' player and coach admit they were unprepared for a game.

To be clear, I still think he's one of the top 10 coaches in the league, but these next few years will be telling.
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby mac5155 on Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:24 pm

Troy Loney wrote:Right, like what he's saying calling Tomlin the second best coach in franchise history.


he said he could end up the best coach in steelers history.
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby meecrofilm on Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:09 pm

TheHammer24 wrote:The hilariousness of the Mendenhall tweet is it's progression.

Line 1: Minority view, but fair point.

Line 2: Well, I don't think you need to see Osama to know he deserved to die.

Line 3: :shock:


The silly part is, yeah, a lot of people have heard him speak. You know, when he was making those videos and saying death to America and all that jazz. But this is entering dead horse territory.
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby Dickie Dunn on Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:04 pm

mac5155 wrote:
Troy Loney wrote:Right, like what he's saying calling Tomlin the second best coach in franchise history.


he said he could end up the best coach in steelers history.


That's correct, he very well could. It's not necessarily likely, but he could. Currently in his 6th year as head coach Tomlin has a 66.7% win percentage, has never had a losing season, and is 1-1 in the Super Bowl. Cowher had a 62.3% win percentage in 15 years as head coach, went 1-1 in the Super Bowl, and had a God awful record in AFC Championship games. Noll had a 56.6% win percentage in 23 seasons as head coach and obviously the 4-0 record in the Super Bowl. Without Noll's Super Bowl numbers no one will be considered better than him, but if Tomlin wins three more Super Bowls over the next 15 years there's an argument for him. That's all I was saying.

And as far as I'm concerned, Tomlin is already ahead of Cowher as the 2nd best coach in franchise history.
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby largegarlic on Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:16 pm

I was thinking about this yesterday while listening to Madden complain about Tomlin. Are there any other coaches out there that are clearly better head coaches than Tomlin, i.e. coaches you would prefer to Tomlin? Not to say that Tomlin doesn't have significant flaws, but off the top of my head, I would only pick Belichick as someone clearly better than Tomlin.

Who else is out there among the current NFL head coaches who would be in the conversation? The Harbaughs? Mike McCarthy? Coughlin? Lovie Smith? Andy Reid? (Even though the Eagles stink right now, he kept them a contender for a long time).
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby Troy Loney on Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:18 pm

McCarthy is probably the only other coach I'd want, but I bet most of his success is due to Rodgers being all world.
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby slappybrown on Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:27 pm

Dickie Dunn wrote:
mac5155 wrote:
Troy Loney wrote:Right, like what he's saying calling Tomlin the second best coach in franchise history.


he said he could end up the best coach in steelers history.


That's correct, he very well could. It's not necessarily likely, but he could. Currently in his 6th year as head coach Tomlin has a 66.7% win percentage, has never had a losing season, and is 1-1 in the Super Bowl. Cowher had a 62.3% win percentage in 15 years as head coach, went 1-1 in the Super Bowl, and had a God awful record in AFC Championship games. Noll had a 56.6% win percentage in 23 seasons as head coach and obviously the 4-0 record in the Super Bowl. Without Noll's Super Bowl numbers no one will be considered better than him, but if Tomlin wins three more Super Bowls over the next 15 years there's an argument for him. That's all I was saying.

And as far as I'm concerned, Tomlin is already ahead of Cowher as the 2nd best coach in franchise history.

I think you're crazy if you believe that Tomlin's resume is superior to Cowher's at this point.
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:28 pm

Yeah, Tomlin is also fortunate to have coached Roethlisberger for all six of his years. Cowher dealt with a long list of stiffs at the QB position. There's your difference.
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby Troy Loney on Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:31 pm

Cowher needs to shoulder a lot of the blame for the stiffs at qb he had on his roster, his desire to mold Stewart into a QB, multiple season with Tommy Maddox. he had to been a part of some of those decisions to not address the qb situation in the draft.
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby KennyTheKangaroo on Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:32 pm

Troy Loney wrote:McCarthy is probably the only other coach I'd want, but I bet most of his success is due to Rodgers being all world.


One could make that very same agrument with Tomlin/Big Ben
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Re: Are You Ready for Some Football - Steelers/Chargers

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:34 pm

^^ I agree with this, because Roethlisberger has bailed out this team's utter inability to draft or field an effective O-line for quite some time. Peyton Manning, Brady, etc always had the benefit of superior pass protection.
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