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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby KennyTheKangaroo on Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:36 am

who knows at this point. jeanshorts has kind of gotten the shaft the past month or so since he was removed from the starting roatation. he basically pitched 3 innings a week in july.

this rotation really doesnt go deep into games very often, but there also arent a whole lot of 4 or 5 inning starts either. it kind of makes the long relief spot useless.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Rocco on Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:32 am

Troy Loney wrote:Thinking about this earlier. If there were an injury, would Gomez be able to be stretched back out?


Until the AAA season ends if it were a situation where a starter would miss one start they'd probably call up Cumpton again. If it were a long-term thing they'd probably go back to Gomez. IIRC Hurdle has said Gomez could probably only throw about 40-50 pitches right now.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Troy Loney on Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:27 pm

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/ma ... 14428.html

I bet the Pirates get the nod for 2013 organization of the year.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby NashvilleCat on Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:18 pm

Raise the Jolly Dodger.


Two game lead.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Rocco on Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:53 pm

Lambo homered again. #FreeAndrewLambo
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Crankshaft on Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:19 pm

Rambo Lambo.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby columbia on Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:11 am

Ex-Pirates slugger Parker is coping with Parkinson’s
http://triblive.com/sports/joestarkey/4 ... z2bBqP9V9g

:(
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby TheHammer24 on Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:10 pm

The source told Marlin Maniac that the Pirates offered the Marlins a compelling offer, which included both cost-controlled major league players and a top pitching prospect. The Pirates offered the Marlins rookie pitcher Gerrit Cole, outfielder Starling Marte, and prospects James Taillon and Stetson Allie for Stanton, Steve Cishek, and Justin Ruggiano.


http://www.fishstripes.com/2013/8/6/459 ... errit-cole
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby viva la ben on Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:13 pm

That's insane
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby DudeMan2766 on Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:16 pm

Theres no way that can be true
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby KennyTheKangaroo on Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:17 pm

holy crap

that would cause tectonic plates in yinzburgh to shift
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby columbia on Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:18 pm

DudeMan2766 wrote:Theres no way that can be true


They left out the the three way trade aspect, where Cutch goes to the Sox and Rios to the Marlins.

Would you believe it then?
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby thehockeyguru on Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:21 pm

No way
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Crankshaft on Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:23 pm

Kinda glad they didnt take that offer.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:25 pm

+ jose fernandez
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:29 pm

If that was offered the Pirates are idiots for offering and the Marlins are idiots for not accepting.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby DudeMan2766 on Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:34 pm

columbia wrote:
DudeMan2766 wrote:Theres no way that can be true


They left out the the three way trade aspect, where Cutch goes to the Sox and Rios to the Marlins.

Would you believe it then?


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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby KennyTheKangaroo on Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:34 pm

kenny the kangaroo is calling bs based on the fact that giving up marte to get stanton essentially plugs up the hole in right field while creating a problem in left field.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby columbia on Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:40 pm

KennyTheKangaroo wrote:kenny the kangaroo is calling bs based on the fact that giving up marte to get stanton essentially plugs up the hole in right field while creating a problem in left field.


You weren't supposed to notice that.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Mr. Colby on Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:43 pm

That didn't happen. Bucs would never offer it and marlins would never decline it

What a joke report
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby cheesesteakwithegg on Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:14 pm

Yeah, no way the Marlins turn that down.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby pfim on Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:08 pm

Logistically, I don't think it makes a ton of sense for the Pirates so I doubt it's true. Losing your starting LF and a starting pitcher from the major league club. But really, that's the type of deal it would take to get Stanton with his talent, age, years of control.

It's overpayment, at least they're overpaying for true quality. Let's say you eliminate those two, if you give up Polanco, Taillon, Allie and Glasnow or a similar type deal, I think you do it from the Pirates' perspective. Or remove Allie for a better prospect.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:09 pm

Is Stetson Allie considered a good prospect again?
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby pfim on Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:22 pm

Letang Is The Truth wrote:Is Stetson Allie considered a good prospect again?


Better than when he started the year, but he's struggling in High A ball.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby TheHammer24 on Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:29 pm

The report went on to speculate that Marte was not involved; instead, an OF prospect was.

But while the offer here seems good for the Marlins, it seems questionable for the Pirates. The reason why the Pirates were linked with Stanton is that the team wanted to fill an outfield position; trading one of their starting outfielders in Marte makes little sense. A more likely scenario would be for them to send top prospect Gregory Polanco. Ruggiano would potentially fill the other gap, but it is questionable whether he is any better than the litany of fourth outfielders that the Pirates have, such as Travis Snider. As for Cishek, he has less value on a team like the Pirates that is set in their bullpen. With Mark Melancon and the injured Jason Grilli on board, Cishek would be a third wheel in the pen.

No matter whether the deal was made or if it was good or bad for Miami, it sounds as though owner Jeffrey Loria wanted no part in the move.

The Pirates caught the eye of the Marlins front office enough with an offer that they seriously entertained the offer and brought it to owner Jeffery Loria. Loria had already decided from before that he was not interested in trading Stanton before he has a chance to offer Stanton an extension to be a Marlin for the long haul.
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