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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Factorial on Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:12 pm

Is Byrd juiced? If so, it will put a stain on anything Bucs accomplish from here on out.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Lt. Dish on Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:05 pm

Didn't see this posted, but I might have missed it. Vic Black is the PTBNL in the Byrd/Buck trade.

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Now confirmed: Black is indeed PTBN going to #Mets from #Pirates. Byrd, Buck and $250K to Pirates for Black and Herrera.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Lt. Dish on Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:08 pm

Factorial wrote:Is Byrd juiced? If so, it will put a stain on anything Bucs accomplish from here on out.


Dejan actually mentioned something about NH likely doing extensive due diligence on this front. I don't think it's naivete to say the there's no way NH is going to screw this up by trading for a suspect player.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Mr. Colby on Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:10 pm

Marte ~2 weeks, Grilli ~1 week, Snider september 1, Wandy TBD but looking like he could return in September
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Rocco on Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:10 pm

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Well done, Hack Squad.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Rocco on Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:11 pm

Factorial wrote:Is Byrd juiced? If so, it will put a stain on anything Bucs accomplish from here on out.


Seeing as how every other team in baseball has had players busted, I'll be happy if the Pirates start doing what other teams are doing.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby TheGhostofGoulet on Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:12 pm

Lt. Dish wrote:Didn't see this posted, but I might have missed it. Vic Black is the PTBNL in the Byrd/Buck trade.

Ken Rosenthal Verified account ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Now confirmed: Black is indeed PTBN going to #Mets from #Pirates. Byrd, Buck and $250K to Pirates for Black and Herrera.



Trading Black is, to me, not a huge deal.

Huntington finds relievers like there is a store.

He should see if he can return Bryan Morris.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby PhantomJB93 on Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:18 pm

Lt. Dish wrote:
Factorial wrote:Is Byrd juiced? If so, it will put a stain on anything Bucs accomplish from here on out.


Dejan actually mentioned something about NH likely doing extensive due diligence on this front. I don't think it's naivete to say the there's no way NH is going to screw this up by trading for a suspect player.


I'd like to think if Byrd was juicing he would have been caught by now, or there would at least be a lot more speculation that he was than what's out there, but who knows.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby TheGhostofGoulet on Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:55 pm

When can I order my Morneau jersey?!
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby ulf on Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:18 pm

I thought byrd has already been suspended. Bazaar story of something he took to cover up a condition that gives him man boobs. And said condition is caused by steroids.

Anyway who cares if he's juicing. Also, is it me or is Gaby kinda almost raking this past week?
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Ad@m on Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:18 am

PhantomJB93 wrote:
Lt. Dish wrote:
Factorial wrote:Is Byrd juiced? If so, it will put a stain on anything Bucs accomplish from here on out.


Dejan actually mentioned something about NH likely doing extensive due diligence on this front. I don't think it's naivete to say the there's no way NH is going to screw this up by trading for a suspect player.


I'd like to think if Byrd was juicing he would have been caught by now, or there would at least be a lot more speculation that he was than what's out there, but who knows.


He was banned for 50 games last season

http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId= ... rc=desktop
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby PhantomJB93 on Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:30 am

Ad@m wrote:
PhantomJB93 wrote:
Lt. Dish wrote:
Factorial wrote:Is Byrd juiced? If so, it will put a stain on anything Bucs accomplish from here on out.


Dejan actually mentioned something about NH likely doing extensive due diligence on this front. I don't think it's naivete to say the there's no way NH is going to screw this up by trading for a suspect player.


I'd like to think if Byrd was juicing he would have been caught by now, or there would at least be a lot more speculation that he was than what's out there, but who knows.


He was banned for 50 games last season

http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId= ... rc=desktop


Wow, I completely forgot about that.

Well, I can't really say I care that much. 20 years of losing while watching everyone else reap the benefits of juicers has kind of made me not care what we do to win. We don't have the luxury that the Penguins or Steelers do in choosing the best high-character guys and passing on anybody who has question marks despite their talent. I think the only way I'll look back at this year any differently would be if we won the WS with Byrd, then continued to do well without any suspect players for several years but never made it back to a championship.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Spangler on Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:22 am

The Steelers chose the best high-character guys? lol
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Rocco on Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:19 am

Arizona lost last night. Pirates are 9 up on them with 30 to play.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby penny lane on Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:19 am

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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby KennyTheKangaroo on Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:11 am

Spangler wrote:The Steelers chose the best high-character guys? lol


its mind bottling that pepole still believe that the stillers care about character
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby jimjom on Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:30 am

It's about time the Pirates get a juicer. Sounds terrible to say but it's the nature of the beast and is a statement about where the game has devolved to. Plus, if he gets tested and has a positive result, he'll appeal and will start the 100 game ban or whatever a second offense is next season. Dude is a beast though.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby KennyTheKangaroo on Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:32 am

jimjom wrote:It's about time the Pirates get a juicer. Sounds terrible to say but it's the nature of the beast and is a statement about where the game has devolved to. Plus, if he gets tested and has a positive result, he'll appeal and will start the 100 game ban or whatever a second offense is next season. Dude is a beast though.


your statement is faulty to the extent that we dont know if any of the current pirates are juicers.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby jimjom on Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:33 am

Good point KtK
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Crankshaft on Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:43 am

KennyTheKangaroo wrote:
jimjom wrote:It's about time the Pirates get a juicer. Sounds terrible to say but it's the nature of the beast and is a statement about where the game has devolved to. Plus, if he gets tested and has a positive result, he'll appeal and will start the 100 game ban or whatever a second offense is next season. Dude is a beast though.


your statement is faulty to the extent that we dont know if any of the current pirates are juicers.


If any of the current Pirates are juicers, then they're doing it wrong.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby KennyTheKangaroo on Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:48 am

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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Crankshaft on Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:03 am

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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Dickie Dunn on Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:05 am

I don't care about players juicing, so it matters zilch to me.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby FreeCandy44 on Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:08 am

Dickie Dunn wrote:I don't care about players juicing, so it matters zilch to me.

Yep
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby beerman on Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:12 am

ulf wrote:Also, is it me or is Gaby kinda almost raking this past week?


Pretty much, I think he's the first baseman for at least the near future. Even if he cools off he at least gives you a solid AB most of the time which is really nice to see.
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