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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby columbia on Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:52 am

Beveridge wrote:I wouldn't want McKenry if he offered the Pirates 800k to play.


How about on the post-game show? :wink:
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Beveridge on Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:58 am

columbia wrote:
Beveridge wrote:I wouldn't want McKenry if he offered the Pirates 800k to play.


How about on the post-game show? :wink:


If it's a one-for-one trade to get Alexander off, I'd allow it.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Factorial on Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:59 am

columbia wrote:
Beveridge wrote:I wouldn't want McKenry if he offered the Pirates 800k to play.


How about on the post-game show? :wink:


I have a feeling that is where he is heading. Teke's getting old.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby CERV96 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:00 am

FreeCandy44 wrote:Lol at Jones....


Agree. What a joke. I would rather have McKenry at 9k than jabroni Jones @ 5 mill
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Crankshaft on Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:37 am

I don't mind McKenry as the 3rd catcher on the depth chart.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby thehockeyguru on Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:37 am

CERV96 wrote:
FreeCandy44 wrote:Lol at Jones....


Agree. What a joke. I would rather have McKenry at 9k than jabroni Jones @ 5 mill


I guess the Walker number is right given he can add about 15 HR's from the 2B position. But man did he have a terrible post-season at the plate.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Rocco on Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:20 pm

McKenry has an option left so they could resign him then send him to AAA and have him around in case of injuries. Jones probably only comes back this year if the Pirates can't find a better option at 1B.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby KennyTheKangaroo on Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:27 pm

do you really want to clog up a 40 man roster spot with the fort to play in AAA though?
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Troy Loney on Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:28 pm

could they get a 3rd catcher that wouldn't be on the 40 man roster?
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Rocco on Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:31 pm

KennyTheKangaroo wrote:do you really want to clog up a 40 man roster spot with the fort to play in AAA though?


I doubt they'll have an issue with 40 man spots. McKenry knows the staff and this is the last year where he's still pretty cheap.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Crankshaft on Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:00 pm

Rocco wrote:McKenry has an option left so they could resign him then send him to AAA and have him around in case of injuries. Jones probably only comes back this year if the Pirates can't find a better option at 1B.


I'd rather them just roll the dice full time with Gaby Sanchez then have Jones on this team again.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby thehockeyguru on Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:01 pm

Crankshaft wrote:
Rocco wrote:McKenry has an option left so they could resign him then send him to AAA and have him around in case of injuries. Jones probably only comes back this year if the Pirates can't find a better option at 1B.


I'd rather them just roll the dice full time with Gaby Sanchez then have Jones on this team again.


I wouldnt bring either back.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Crankshaft on Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:07 pm

thehockeyguru wrote:
Crankshaft wrote:
Rocco wrote:McKenry has an option left so they could resign him then send him to AAA and have him around in case of injuries. Jones probably only comes back this year if the Pirates can't find a better option at 1B.


I'd rather them just roll the dice full time with Gaby Sanchez then have Jones on this team again.


I wouldnt bring either back.


Agreed.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby meow on Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:07 pm

thehockeyguru wrote:
Crankshaft wrote:
Rocco wrote:McKenry has an option left so they could resign him then send him to AAA and have him around in case of injuries. Jones probably only comes back this year if the Pirates can't find a better option at 1B.


I'd rather them just roll the dice full time with Gaby Sanchez then have Jones on this team again.


I wouldnt bring either back.

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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Rocco on Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:39 pm

At this point it's pretty well established that Sanchez can't do much against RHP, but is useful against lefties. If the Pirates can find a 1B without platoon splits then Sanchez will be gone. Otherwise there are worse ways to go than having Sanchez around as half of a platoon.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Beveridge on Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:48 pm

Rocco wrote:Otherwise there are worse ways to go than having Sanchez around as half of a platoon.


See: Jones, G.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby CERV96 on Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:47 pm

Keep his wife though

Maybe there are some carpets around the clubhouse she can lay or something.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Mr. Colby on Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:42 pm

•Garrett Jones - $5.3MM - NO
•Neil Walker - $4.8MM - YES BUT ONLY BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OTHER OPTIONS
•Pedro Alvarez - $4MM - YES
•Charlie Morton - $3.9MM - YES
•Mark Melancon - $3MM - YES
•Gaby Sanchez - $2.3MM - YES UNLESS WE SIGN A BIG TIMER TO PLAY 1ST
•Travis Snider - $1.4MM - YES
•Michael McKenry - $900K - NO BUT I'D CONSIDER SIGNING HIM TO A MINOR LEAGUE DEAL
•Vin Mazzaro - $800K - YES
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Rocco on Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:09 pm

Mr. Colby wrote:•Neil Walker - $4.8MM - YES BUT ONLY BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OTHER OPTIONS


And because he's actually pretty good at his job. He had the 2nd highest WAR among NL 2B. Ideally the Pirates would find a way to keep him out of the lineup against lefties.

Travis Snider - $1.4MM - YES


You'd begrudgingly keep Walker but have no reservations about keeping Snider around?

•Michael McKenry - $900K - NO BUT I'D CONSIDER SIGNING HIM TO A MINOR LEAGUE DEAL


He has an option left. You aren't saving that much money trying to let him walk and sign him to a minor league deal.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Rocco on Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:18 pm

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-land ... ent-class/

Kendrys Morales, Designated Hitter: 3 years, $33 million

Morales has been an above average player exactly once in his career, back in 2009, when he was 26 years old. Since then, he’s broken his leg, spent a season and a half on the disabled list, lost his ability to play the field on a regular basis, and has gotten even slower, to the point that he’s now perhaps the very worst baserunner in the game. And he’s not even that great of a hitter.

Despite a skillset that has more weaknesses than strengths, the Mariners still made Morales a qualifying offer, signifying both that they want him back and that they believe Scott Boras won’t take a one year deal. Boras is very good at extracting dollars from teams, so he probably won’t end up taking the qualifying offer for Morales, but giving up a draft pick for the right to overpay Morales on a mutli-year deal seems like a trap in the making. There are hitters who can produce enough value solely at the plate to outweigh the fact that they don’t do anything else to help you win, but Morales isn’t that kind of hitter. Odds are pretty good that the Mariners end up bidding against themselves, but still manage to re-sign a mediocre one dimensional player anyway.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Mr. Colby on Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:27 pm

Rocco wrote:
Mr. Colby wrote:•Neil Walker - $4.8MM - YES BUT ONLY BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OTHER OPTIONS


And because he's actually pretty good at his job. He had the 2nd highest WAR among NL 2B. Ideally the Pirates would find a way to keep him out of the lineup against lefties.

Travis Snider - $1.4MM - YES


You'd begrudgingly keep Walker but have no reservations about keeping Snider around?

•Michael McKenry - $900K - NO BUT I'D CONSIDER SIGNING HIM TO A MINOR LEAGUE DEAL


He has an option left. You aren't saving that much money trying to let him walk and sign him to a minor league deal.


Walker - agreed, i just don't like him
Snider - re: Walker = apples to oranges, and at a low cost i'd like to give him one more shot. Had a nice April and has tools
McKenry - if they think it's worth the extra 400k or so to keep a journeyman around because he knows the pitching then go for it
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Rocco on Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:27 pm

Cutch wins his 2nd straight Silver Slugger award as the best hitting CF in the NL.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Rocco on Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:41 pm

Pedro wins the Silver Slugger award for 3B. Hopefully he doesn't try to unwrap it and eat it.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Rocco on Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:38 pm

The Reds have hired Jay Bell as a bench coach.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Crankshaft on Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:42 pm

Rocco wrote:The Reds have hired Jay Bell as a bench coach.


What a traitor.
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