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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Troy Loney on Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:48 am

Cool little write up on Polanco by BA for the futures game.

What To Watch For: Polanco possesses one of the best blends of power and speed in the minors. He hits for average, hits for power and gets on-base, and he’s a legitimate center fielder. In other words, he’s one of the best prospects in the game


http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2 ... ld-roster/
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:05 am

are these guys a result of the new presence in the domincan?
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby shafnutz05 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:07 am

Just a curious question...if Polanco were to be called up in a year or two, how would he fit into the lineup? Obviously Marte and Cutch have locked up two of the OF spots, would you put him in right? That would be a pretty amazing OF if it worked out.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Troy Loney on Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:16 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:are these guys a result of the new presence in the domincan?


It seems like they've really enhanced early development, and you'd think that the academy would be a factor in that. Starting with Polanco in AA, there are guys below him at every level that have come up through the international ranks that look to be legit prospects. Hanson (obviously), Herrera, Ramirez, Escobar.

I also like the hitter heavy approach in the intl ranks and the pitcher heavy focus in the draft, it's creating balance in the system...and it's working.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Troy Loney on Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:20 am

shafnutz05 wrote:Just a curious question...if Polanco were to be called up in a year or two, how would he fit into the lineup? Obviously Marte and Cutch have locked up two of the OF spots, would you put him in right? That would be a pretty amazing OF if it worked out.


I'd maybe move Marte to right to take advantage of his arm....pretty sure Polanco would actually cover more ground in the OF than Marte. Assuming Marte keeps developing as a leadoff guy, i'd put Polanco between him and McCutchen. Him and Marte would terorize pitchers on the basepaths.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby beerman on Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:43 am

shafnutz05 wrote:Just a curious question...if Polanco were to be called up in a year or two, how would he fit into the lineup? Obviously Marte and Cutch have locked up two of the OF spots, would you put him in right? That would be a pretty amazing OF if it worked out.


RF is probably where he'll go, I think either he or Marte should play center with McCutchen in left (where he should be already) but that's just not going to happen anytime soon.

Regardless of where each start that's an awesome outfield.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Geezer on Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:00 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:are these guys a result of the new presence in the domincan?

That academy wouold seem likely to help. I also think there's a similarity of Dominican players in MLB and Samoans in the NFL.There are disproportionate numbers in the pros for such tiny populations.
I saw a cool article about kids in the Domonican carrying their cardboard baseball gloves in their back pocket. They make their own fingerless gloves. Imagine how good of a fielder you could become learning to play with crap equipment
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby IanMoran on Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:03 pm

Number 1 Power Ranking from a more mainstream source

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/powerrankings

So let's talk about the Pittsburgh Pirates.

They seem to be the most polarizing team in these here ranks. Most Pirates fans seem to think I have some vendetta against their team while many non-Pirates fans think I consistently rank the Pirates too high -- other than those who think I should just copy-and-paste the standings, but that's a different topic for a different day.

Let's put all that nonsense -- and that's exactly what accusations of bias are -- aside and honestly assess these Pirates. Not the Pirates of the last 20 years. Not the Pirates of last season that teased so many. What about these Pirates.

The starting rotation has posted an ERA amongst the best in baseball, and that's with pretty terrible luck on injuries. They've needed to use 11 different starting pitchers this year, for example. So, really, it's reasonable to expect them to continue to perform well as the arms get healthier.

The bullpen boasts one of the most potent 8-9 duos in baseball in Mark Melancon and Jason Grilli. They could probably use better depth in order to avoid overworking the key players, but when the starters all get healthy, that should trickle down and help -- like being able to move Jeanmar Gomez to the 'pen, for example.

The offense has been a slight issue, but there are areas where a natural improvement should occur. Andrew McCutchen and Neil Walker are capable of better play while Pedro Alvarez just recently woke up (again). Jordy Mercer appears to be a giant upgrade over Clint Barmes at shortstop and there's always the trade deadline to add pieces. And, boy, do I love me some Starling Marte.

Overall, I really like the mix.

I don't know if they can make the playoffs, but they have many of the pieces required to do so and, to reiterate, there's a trade deadline in our future. I firmly believe the Pirates will break .500 and remain in playoff contention deep into September.

Then again, I believed that last year, too. So I've been wrong with this bunch before.

Still, as things stand right now, a reasonable argument can be made that the Pirates are playing the best baseball of anyone. So I'm putting them at the top for this week. As I've said many times before, my criteria in ranking is who I'd pick to win a seven-game series that started right now. I'd take the Pirates over anyone as of June 26. Many will disagree, but that's OK. That's part of the Power Rankings fun.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby columbia on Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:37 pm

I don't think that it's unreasonable to take a "show me the money" approach, when evaluating the Bucs.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby FreeCandy44 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:57 pm

I think its way to early to start saying the "p word" around these parts. Lets see if we all love them come September.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Rocco on Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:54 pm

does giancarlo stanton cover his bald head of the ice and then on the ice when his helmet flips of his balding head is exposed ala Newman asking to try on a new hat recently bought from a flea market while trying to pick up a woman complimenting the hat
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby KennyTheKangaroo on Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:57 pm

is that a question
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Troy Loney on Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:39 pm

Pirates signed their 3rd round pick at slot. Doesn't create any more money for Meadows...but I'm sure they're offering around slot and he'll take that.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby columbia on Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:41 pm

KennyTheKangaroo wrote:is that a question


Art imitating life, right here.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:43 pm

who leaked the info about jeanmar staton? i have seen several articles squashing it
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Troy Loney on Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:46 pm

JWalk traded to the phillies.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Troy Loney on Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:50 pm

at least there's a thread on a pirates message board that this happened.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby TheGhostofGoulet on Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:52 pm

I think they meant John McDonald.

I know the Phillies acquired him from Cleveland today.

Four teams already this season.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Troy Loney on Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:53 pm

yeah your right....ugh. bunch of losers over there.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Rocco on Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:21 pm

Troy Loney wrote:Pirates signed their 3rd round pick at slot. Doesn't create any more money for Meadows...but I'm sure they're offering around slot and he'll take that.


He'll sign, but not much before the deadline.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Rocco on Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:27 pm

I don't think I will be around much this weekend. I'll have to trust you people to handle things. I hope I don't end up posting an "I am disappoint" picture on Sunday.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Rocco on Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:18 pm

Bill Brink ‏@BrinkPG 6m
Source: #Pirates close to signing first-round pick Austin Meadows. Physical scheduled for tomorrow.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby FreeCandy44 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:21 pm

For some reason I thought he was already signed.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby Beveridge on Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:35 pm

Were you thinking of the other first round pick? Cause he was signed.
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Re: Official 2013 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby FreeCandy44 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:44 pm

I forgot we had two picks lol. Thank you again Appel.
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