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SolidSnake wrote:Extremely sad, wasn't she involved with Roger Clemens?









KennyTheKangaroo wrote:you have to be a first rate jagoff to kill your own dog.

The Snapshot wrote:Wow, she had to be really ill to leave her two kids one of only 10 months old. Sad.

Eismann wrote:Awful. What's not helping is when people - especially celebs - say that addition is a disease. Bullcrap. Cancer, lupus, the flu, those are diseases that people get without choosing to do so. But if one gets hooked on something, it's entirely within their power to stop. This is coming from someone who was addicted to chewing tobacco for 20 years. My addiction wasn't a disease, it was a damned stupid choice I kept making every day for a long time. Took a while to stop, but I did it, and now dip-free for coming up on 5 years. Thinking of it as a 'disease' would remove personal culpability for my actions, which is the downside of all this celebrity 'it's not your fault' crap that's doing way more harm than good.
And as usual, an innocent kid suffers.

Eismann wrote:Awful. What's not helping is when people - especially celebs - say that addition is a disease. Bullcrap. Cancer, lupus, the flu, those are diseases that people get without choosing to do so. But if one gets hooked on something, it's entirely within their power to stop. This is coming from someone who was addicted to chewing tobacco for 20 years. My addiction wasn't a disease, it was a damned stupid choice I kept making every day for a long time. Took a while to stop, but I did it, and now dip-free for coming up on 5 years. Thinking of it as a 'disease' would remove personal culpability for my actions, which is the downside of all this celebrity 'it's not your fault' crap that's doing way more harm than good.
And as usual, an innocent kid suffers.

legame wrote:Eismann wrote:Awful. What's not helping is when people - especially celebs - say that addition is a disease. Bullcrap. Cancer, lupus, the flu, those are diseases that people get without choosing to do so. But if one gets hooked on something, it's entirely within their power to stop. This is coming from someone who was addicted to chewing tobacco for 20 years. My addiction wasn't a disease, it was a damned stupid choice I kept making every day for a long time. Took a while to stop, but I did it, and now dip-free for coming up on 5 years. Thinking of it as a 'disease' would remove personal culpability for my actions, which is the downside of all this celebrity 'it's not your fault' crap that's doing way more harm than good.
And as usual, an innocent kid suffers.
I'm having trouble agreeing with this after watching my dad drink himself to death...


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