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Idoit40fans wrote:Jerry Meals says its safe to pick the Pirates.




Troy Loney wrote:Are you guys being homers or do you really think the pirates could finish ahead of the cardinals? I really don't think much of the brewers, so I think 3rd place is definitely within reach, but that cardinals team is stacked (again).





Kovy27 wrote:I do think the Jays will win the WS though.

schreibdog wrote:Yeah, I'm being a homer, too. Realistically the Cards are better than the Buccos on paper.
I'm curious to see how the Cards rotation works out with Carpenter and potentially Lohse out. Garcia is good but was injured last year, Lance Lynn was good some months and bad others, Westbrook is 35, Shelby Miller is unproven. I don't know. Maybe I'm grasping at straws.
Meanwhile the Pirates outlook is no better: Burnett's 36, Wandy's is solid yet unimpressive, JMac has to get his head straight, Karstens and Liriano got hurt already, Morton's recovering, Cole's a half-season away, and McPherson and Locke have only shown glimpses. So....STL rotation > PIT rotation
STL hitting easily > PIT hitting
Molina, Freese, Beltran, Holliday, Craig > McCutchen, Walker, Jones, Alvarez, Marte
STL bullpen at least has depth. The Pirates pen has so many unknowns. Grilli as a closer could be great or could be awful. Hughes only has 1 full season in MLB, Watson will be decent, Melancon should be solid but after that it's a crapshoot.
But I'm keeping my homer stance and taking the Buccos

tfrizz wrote:Kovy27 wrote:I do think the Jays will win the WS though.
I hope you're right. Rogers finally gave the green light to spend and Anthopolous ran with it.

Troy Loney wrote:tfrizz wrote:Kovy27 wrote:I do think the Jays will win the WS though.
I hope you're right. Rogers finally gave the green light to spend and Anthopolous ran with it.
I'm definitely pulling for the Blue Jays to win that division. But with that team, I see a lot of solo home runs and strike outs in the lineup. The bullpen doesn't look very good, and there are some guys in the rotation with some control problems.


KennyTheKangaroo wrote:Too many variables w the jays. Do not want.

Troy Loney wrote:Morrow seems to have consistency issues, I don't think Buerhle and Dickey take well to moving to the AL east, and Josh Johnson is a bit of a variable as well. There could be a ton of upside in the Johnson/Dickey top of the rotation, but I just don't see them as sure things.

Troy Loney wrote:tfrizz wrote:Kovy27 wrote:I do think the Jays will win the WS though.
I hope you're right. Rogers finally gave the green light to spend and Anthopolous ran with it.
I'm definitely pulling for the Blue Jays to win that division. But with that team, I see a lot of solo home runs and strike outs in the lineup. The bullpen doesn't look very good, and there are some guys in the rotation with some control problems.

MWB wrote:KennyTheKangaroo wrote:Too many variables w the jays. Do not want.
Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. A ton of strikeouts, as TL said, and also quite a few guys who haven't proven themselves to be consistently good. Also some health question marks. If Dickey, Morrow, and Cabrera can approach last year's success, and Johnson, Morrow, and Reyes can stay healthy, and Lawrie can continue to progress, they could be very good. That's a lot of very big "ifs" though.

Troy Loney wrote:I'm not a fan of this Liriano pickup. It's terrible to have a guy loading the basepaths with walks every game. Hopefully Martin helps alleviate the stealing free for all that took place last year, but that can't all have been on Barajas last year right? I can really see the bottom 3 in this rotation taxing the hell out of the bulpen again in the first half and setting the team up another poorous second half.

Troy Loney wrote:Morrow seems to have consistency issues, I don't think Buerhle and Dickey take well to moving to the AL east, and Josh Johnson is a bit of a variable as well. There could be a ton of upside in the Johnson/Dickey top of the rotation, but I just don't see them as sure things.

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