joopen wrote: slappybrown wrote:
joopen wrote:I honestly want to know how hard it is to just enjoy being a rock star on campus while having no expenses and no worries about life while preparing for a multi-million dollar career. The NCAA makes a buck now but he will too when he is a PROFESSIONAL.
Why can't he sell his signature?
He's a professional now. He's not getting paid for it. That's the only difference. You've bought the NCAA's horse **** hook line and sinker if you think he's an "amateur."
What if he tears his ACL tomorrow?
I would guess he has surgery and plays football again. Oh, plus the surgery would be paid for too. If it was so bad he couldn't play again well then he should be thankful that he has the opportunity to continue his education and get his degree for free, or at a minimum for half price. Accidents and injuries happen to everyone in every walk of life. What if a medical student who can be a surgeon has his hand smashed tomorrow? Yea it sucks that there are risks (Lattimore) but the rewards obviously outweigh the risks.
He's not a professional now. There is no way in all that is holy that a 18 19 or 20 year old would survive the NFL. It would be very few and far between who could. I don't care what the NCAA is feeding. I wasn't allowed to accept any money to help my high school run a camp for kids when I was a damn DIII football player. He can't because the rules allowing him to pursue his professional football career says he can't. In a year he can sell it as many times as he wants. He has to deal with it for A YEAR before being handsomely compensated before even performing at his job.
How incredibly magnanimous of the NCAA to pay for the surgery resulting from an injury their unpaid labor force suffered while generating literally billions of dollars for fat dudes in ill-fitting suits. What an organization. The NCAA could just put those broken down "student-athletes" down when they tear ligaments or break bones to save costs against those billion dollar TV contracts, but instead they actually pay for the surgery.
I don't understand your larger point here. My point is that the rules are arcane remnants of an era when "student-athlete" wasn't laughable on its face. If you are argument is that accepting money is a violation of NCAA at present, then yes, of course it is.
The rules are moronic. Why should the NCAA control who wants to buy HIS OWN SIGNATURE?!?! What is the possible justification for that, other than an attempt to keep the floodgates of paid players from prying open as long as possible?
No one paid you at your DIII football camp because, quite frankly, no one gave a **** about your DIII football camp in the larger scheme of things. No one wanted your signature or to bask in the reflected glory of your DIII football career, unlike major college football players. But yes, if you were running the camp at the behest of whatever school you went to to help them in recruiting, you sure as **** should have been paid but for NCAA idiocy.
You've seized on this professional/amateur distinction like it means anything. Its completely invented by the NCAA to justify their existence and to avoid paying athletes -- this sums it up:
In its predicament, the NCAA has no recourse to any principle or law that can justify amateurism. There is no such thing. Scholars and sportswriters yearn for grand juries to ferret out every forbidden bauble that reaches a college athlete, but the NCAA's ersatz courts can only masquerade as public authority. How could any statute impose amateur status on college athletes, or on anyone else? No legal definition of amateur exists, and any attempt to create one in enforceable law would expose its repulsive and unconstitutional nature—a bill of attainder, stripping from college athletes the rights of American citizenship.
Its completely and utterly made up, and you've bought their bull ****.http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc ... ts/308643/
That they were students meant they did not have to be compensated, ever, for anything more than the cost of their studies. Student-athlete became the NCAA's signature term, repeated constantly in and out of courtrooms...as both a legalistic defense and a noble ideal. Indeed, such is the term's rhetorical power that it is increasingly used as a sort of reflexive mantra against charges of rabid hypocrisy.
The moral logic is hard to fathom: the NCAA bans personal messages on the bodies of the players, and penalizes players for trading their celebrity status for discounted tattoos, but it codifies precisely how and where commercial insignia from multinational corporations can be displayed on college players, for the financial benefit of the colleges. Last season, while the NCAA investigated him and his father for the recruiting fees they'd allegedly sought, Cam Newton compliantly wore at least 15 corporate logos—one on his jersey, four on his helmet visor, one on each wristband, one on his pants, six on his shoes, and one on the headband he wears under his helmet—as part of Auburn's $10.6 million deal with Under Armour.