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Re: NFL

Postby Idoit40fans on Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:58 pm

Of Flacco improving and Ben and the Steelers regressing? It looks likely.
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Re: NFL

Postby pittsports87 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:00 pm

Grunthy wrote:
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Big Ben is a good bit better than Flacco. Ben has had two season's with under a 90 QB rating, and one was after he almost died in an accident. Flacco has had 1 season above 90.

Tony Romo has never had a season with under a 90.0 QB rating. Romo >>>>>>>>>> Roethlisberger
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Re: NFL

Postby Grunthy on Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:07 pm

Ben was having one of his best season's ever last year. So I don't think that counts as regressing. And Romo isn't horrible. He just cannot perform under pressure, like a lot of QBs.
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Re: NFL

Postby Troy Loney on Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:12 pm

Grunthy wrote:Ben was having one of his best season's ever last year. So I don't think that counts as regressing. And Romo isn't horrible. He just cannot perform under pressure, like a lot of QBs.



So now maybe roethlisberger is more like a Tony Romo in that he puts up good numbers, but he doesn't win much.

Either way, he's still in that above average QB tier with the guys below the truly elite.
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Re: NFL

Postby skullman80 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:17 pm

Did anyone call Big Ben elite? Maybe I missed it....
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Re: NFL

Postby Crankshaft on Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:19 pm

skullman80 wrote:Did anyone call Big Ben elite? Maybe I missed it....


The only mention of Ben was that he was (slightly) better than Flacco. Not that Ben was elite. Unless I missed it, too.
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Re: NFL

Postby Troy Loney on Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:21 pm

I don't know, I guess i'm simply arguing that the only guys who deserve that big QB money are the elite. Teams are better off in the long run if they didn't give big contracts to that above average tier.
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Re: NFL

Postby Pitt87 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:28 pm

ulf wrote:
Pitt87 wrote: When QB's only passed the ball 20 times a game, you had to be very special to be good. Now that the average is more like 30 and teams routinely throw the ball 40 times you can be less good and have good results, stats, etc. John Elway Joe Flacco is not, but he's at least as good as Ben Roethlisberger and ten or so other NFL QB's.


lol


Not sure whats funny... there are 2-3 top quarterbacks, 20 quarterbacks that are good enough to win, and 7-8 that cost their teams game. If you disagree, have at it, Hoss.
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Re: NFL

Postby Rylan on Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:07 pm

What separates Ben and Flacco is the ability to succeed under pressure. Flacco is the better pure passer, but his mistakes and inability to be consistent are just as negative as Ben's. but I feel that Roethlisberger makes more splash plays than Flacco creates.
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Re: NFL

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:14 pm

Splash play ability
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Re: NFL

Postby columbia on Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:16 pm

He's certainly not 1337 material in 2013.
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Re: NFL

Postby viva la ben on Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:18 pm

Who gives a crap about joe flacco anyway
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Re: NFL

Postby columbia on Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:42 pm

viva la ben wrote:Who gives a crap about joe flacco anyway


My upstairs neighbor, who is from Baltimore. :)
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Re: NFL

Postby Grunthy on Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:21 pm

Elite (Peyton Manning, Brady), Above Average ( Brees, Rodgers, Ryan, Schaub(if healthy), RGIII, Big Ben, Eli, Kaepernick, Luck, Wilson, Rivers, Flacco, Romo, Stafford)Average

That is how I somewhat rank the QBs.
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Re: NFL

Postby offsides on Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:50 pm

viva la ben wrote:Who gives a crap about joe flacco anyway


:thumb: QFT
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Re: NFL

Postby JS© on Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:52 pm

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Re: NFL

Postby Kaizer on Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:04 pm

Yay my team
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Re: NFL

Postby skullman80 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:06 pm

Kaizer wrote:Yay my team


Nice throw by Wilson on that last TD.
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Re: NFL

Postby Rylan on Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:22 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAH BUCS AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Re: NFL

Postby shmenguin on Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:23 pm

Rylan wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAH BUCS AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


on the bright side...the bucs are awful and have no chance to do anything, so that dumb play might vault them past the jets for a high draft pick. that guy should get the game ball
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Re: NFL

Postby MRandall25 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:26 pm

How the hell did Tampa lose that?
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Re: NFL

Postby shmenguin on Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:26 pm

adrian peterson...78 yards on his first carry. 15 yards the rest of the game. somehow i don't see him getting 2,500 rushing yards this year.
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Re: NFL

Postby shafnutz05 on Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:32 pm

shmenguin wrote:adrian peterson...78 yards on his first carry. 15 yards the rest of the game. somehow i don't see him getting 2,500 rushing yards this year.


I couldn't be more stunned. The main problem is that Christian Ponder is an absolutely terrible quarterback. As brilliant as AP is, he has to deal with one of the worst QBs in the NFL.
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Re: NFL

Postby Kaizer on Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:43 pm

Rylan wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAH BUCS AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


someone's riding home in the luggage compartment
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Re: NFL

Postby Kaizer on Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:50 pm

Kaepernick just ate GB alive
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