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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby ExPatriatePen on Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:14 pm

Tico Rick wrote:Watching Kris Letang play defense is mind altering.

So *that's* what he's doing out there?

Wow man, that's so kewl, defense, I thought he was just playing pass the puck to the other team. Wow man, defense.... Play like LeTang and pass that doobie over here man...

:)
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby Kaizer on Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:26 pm

My mind was definitely altered by some stuff i smoked with a neighbor last year. Ive never had that happen before, but i felt like i was tripping balls. Yes it was just weed, and yes i was having 10 minutes feel like an hour.
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby Sarcastic on Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:27 pm

ExPatriatePen wrote:
Sarcastic wrote:On the thing epp and colby are talking about..... is pot a mind-altering drug? It just seems to make me laugh like an idiot. I can still think fine. I mean, I realize I'm laughing like an idiot and can't stop, but it's not I'm laying on the ground, drooling, and seeing rainbows.


Define "mind altering".

It's not a hallucinogenic, but it think you have to put it in the same class as alcohol in that it does effect your brain while you're "under the influence".

I say this as a way of comparing it to tobacco or caffeine, which are also drugs, but ones that I wouldn't classify as having an effect on the mental process. (Or minimal, if any)

Certainly, if you're advocating for "mind altering"
substances to be prohibited, that would have to include alcohol, ala. prohibition, by it's very definition.


OK, I guess I can get with that. If the same applies to alcohol.Image
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby Sarcastic on Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:39 pm

MRandall25 wrote:
Sarcastic wrote:
no name wrote:I think with 80% of pot smokers they are responcible and will smoke without instances of bad things happening.

its the 20% that will do it all day everyday in the worst situations that scare me.

I would hope this would put the pot dealers out of business or at least make it not as profitable for them to keep on doing it.


In all my years, I don't think I recall a since car accident I heard of that was caused by a stoned driver.


Because it is still considered DUI. There is no distinction between alcohol and marijuana. Driving high = driving drunk, in the eyes of the law.

I'm sure there have been accidents, but since they were reported as a DUI, you don't know what drug they were under the influence of.


Yeah, I think you're right on that. It says it's 6.8% for pot.

http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/marijuana-abuse/does-marijuana-use-affect-driving

A recent survey found that 6.8 percent of drivers, mostly under age 35, who were involved in accidents tested positive for THC; alcohol levels above the legal limit were found in 21 percent of such drivers.
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby Willie Kool on Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:48 pm

Sarcastic wrote:A recent survey found that 6.8 percent of drivers, mostly under age 35, who were involved in accidents tested positive for THC; alcohol levels above the legal limit were found in 21 percent of such drivers.


The problem is, those tests can't show that someone is currently 'under the influence' of THC or show a definitive level of impairment due to THC like they can with alcohol. If the driver smoked within the last week or two it would still come back as positive for THC, even though the 'buzz' was gone days ago.
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby count2infinity on Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:51 pm

Willie Kool wrote:
Sarcastic wrote:A recent survey found that 6.8 percent of drivers, mostly under age 35, who were involved in accidents tested positive for THC; alcohol levels above the legal limit were found in 21 percent of such drivers.


The problem is, those tests can't show that someone is currently 'under the influence' of THC or show a definitive level of impairment due to THC like they can with alcohol. If the driver smoked within the last week or two it would still come back as positive for THC, even though the 'buzz' was gone days ago.


I can't find the article or news report that I read/saw, but they have a way to tell if the THC is active in your system where as drug tests for jobs and things like that are sensitive to THC by products in your system, not active THC.
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby Willie Kool on Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:13 pm

count2infinity wrote:I can't find the article or news report that I read/saw, but they have a way to tell if the THC is active in your system where as drug tests for jobs and things like that are sensitive to THC by products in your system, not active THC.


You appear to be correct. I found some info saying that there are tests that check saliva for delta-9 THC and not metabolites, and can narrow it down to a 4 - 6 hour window since the last hit. I certainly don't support any form of impaired driving, but I still don't necessarily see that as any real proof of impairment.

I'd also be interested to see if the cited 6.8% were 'at fault' as opposed to just 'being involved' in the accident.
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby Sarcastic on Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:07 pm

In several articles I found earlier it said people who are on pot are much safer than drunk drivers because on pot, people realize they're stoned and can often compensate, and also that the stoned usually drive slower. I don't feel like looking again, but I did find many such statements.

here's one such article (and yes i realize what kind of site it is). and check out the 'Top 10 reasons marijuana users are safer drivers'
http://tokesignals.com/auto-insurance-site-says-marijuana-users-are-safer-drivers/
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby count2infinity on Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:09 pm

doesn't matter, still shouldn't drive under the influence of anything.
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby MRandall25 on Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:10 pm

count2infinity wrote:doesn't matter, still shouldn't drive under the influence of anything.


QFT
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby Sarcastic on Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:11 pm

I am not advocating driving stoned, btw. Just for comparison reasons vs alcohol.
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby count2infinity on Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:19 pm

understood.
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby Willie Kool on Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:16 pm

Obama: Pot less dangerous than alcohol.

When I asked Obama about another area of shifting public opinion—the legalization of marijuana—he seemed even less eager to evolve with any dispatch and get in front of the issue. “As has been well documented, I smoked pot as a kid, and I view it as a bad habit and a vice, not very different from the cigarettes that I smoked as a young person up through a big chunk of my adult life. I don’t think it is more dangerous than alcohol.”

Is it less dangerous? I asked.

Obama leaned back and let a moment go by. That’s one of his moves...

Less dangerous, he said, “in terms of its impact on the individual consumer."


http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/01/27/140127fa_fact_remnick

Yet it remains Schedule I. :face:
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby shmenguin on Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:47 pm

If Christie gets elected, there could be some fireworks between him and Col/Wash.
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby Shyster on Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:48 am

We know one thing: legalizing pot doesn't interfere with local NFL football teams making the Superbowl. Washington vs Colorado. Call this one Superbowl 420.
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby shmenguin on Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:17 pm



i've only watched part of this so far, but man...lots of crazy stuff in there. the most interesting being the potential of cannabis to act as an anti-cancer agent. not only preventing cancer, but actually killing tumors. the idea is (i think) that we have a defense system in our bodies (made up of endocannabinoids) that hasn't kept up with the increasing toxicity of our environment, and cannabinoids may enhance that system.

there's also a doctor talking about lung cancer and marijuana use. there is evidence that smoking pot (yes, smoking) helps prevent lung cancer. it's a small, insignificant margin, but the point is that there is no evidence that ingesting that smoke into your lungs will make you more likely to develop lung cancer.
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby count2infinity on Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:19 pm

A little closer to home in the future?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/1 ... 03971.html
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby viva la ben on Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:21 pm

I wonder if the dispensaries in PA would be operated by the state like the PALCB
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby PensFanInDC on Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:31 pm

count2infinity wrote:A little closer to home in the future?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/1 ... 03971.html


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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby columbia on Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:43 pm

Pot will be legal for recreational use in all 50 states no later than 2020. Once those quarterly tax revenues are reported, the states are all going to jump all over that bandwagon.


This seems accurate.
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby Chefpatrick871 on Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:13 pm

PensFanInDC wrote:
count2infinity wrote:A little closer to home in the future?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/1 ... 03971.html


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So, got a room to rent??
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby PensFanInDC on Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:35 pm

Chefpatrick871 wrote:
PensFanInDC wrote:
count2infinity wrote:A little closer to home in the future?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/1 ... 03971.html


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So, got a room to rent??


if this happens I might open a bed and breakfast.
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby Chefpatrick871 on Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:56 pm

PensFanInDC wrote:
Chefpatrick871 wrote:
PensFanInDC wrote:
count2infinity wrote:A little closer to home in the future?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/1 ... 03971.html


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So, got a room to rent??


if this happens I might open a bed and breakfast.

Well someone has to cook said breakfast. Ill send my CV to you via facsimile post haste.
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby PensFanInDC on Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:21 pm

We drug test
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Re: Hey Colorado, easy on the munchies.

Postby Sarcastic on Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:52 pm

PensFanInDC wrote:We drug test


lololol
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