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BleuLineLady wrote:I really wish Morneau was still with the Pirates. A good player and seems like a good guy. Major upgrade at 1st compared to Ike Davis.
columbia wrote:Don't confuse how terrible Davis is - and he is - with any decision to bring back Morneau; and it's not clear that he wanted to return.
Rocco wrote:BleuLineLady wrote:I really wish Morneau was still with the Pirates. A good player and seems like a good guy. Major upgrade at 1st compared to Ike Davis.
Morneau last year in Pittsburgh was marginally worse than Davis has been this year. Going to Colorado when Colorado was the only team that really wanted him has revitalized him.
columbia wrote:Independent of Morneau, they're definitely not free spenders.
BleuLineLady wrote:Rocco wrote:BleuLineLady wrote:I really wish Morneau was still with the Pirates. A good player and seems like a good guy. Major upgrade at 1st compared to Ike Davis.
Morneau last year in Pittsburgh was marginally worse than Davis has been this year. Going to Colorado when Colorado was the only team that really wanted him has revitalized him.
Marginally worse how? The numbers dont show that. Morneau in his short stint was batting .260 with .370 OBP. Not ideal for they brought him in for, but he was getting on base pretty well. Davis is .237/.352. How is that better?
Rocco wrote:BleuLineLady wrote:Rocco wrote:BleuLineLady wrote:I really wish Morneau was still with the Pirates. A good player and seems like a good guy. Major upgrade at 1st compared to Ike Davis.
Morneau last year in Pittsburgh was marginally worse than Davis has been this year. Going to Colorado when Colorado was the only team that really wanted him has revitalized him.
Marginally worse how? The numbers dont show that. Morneau in his short stint was batting .260 with .370 OBP. Not ideal for they brought him in for, but he was getting on base pretty well. Davis is .237/.352. How is that better?
Ike: .237/.352/.341, .693 OPS, 98 OPS+
Morneau: .260/.370/.312, .681 OPS, 96 OPS+
Morneau was brought in to provide power. He was put in the cleanup spot. He showed zero power. This year he's having his best year since 2010. Everyone who saw him having this year please raise their hands.
BleuLineLady wrote:Rocco wrote:BleuLineLady wrote:Rocco wrote:BleuLineLady wrote:I really wish Morneau was still with the Pirates. A good player and seems like a good guy. Major upgrade at 1st compared to Ike Davis.
Morneau last year in Pittsburgh was marginally worse than Davis has been this year. Going to Colorado when Colorado was the only team that really wanted him has revitalized him.
Marginally worse how? The numbers dont show that. Morneau in his short stint was batting .260 with .370 OBP. Not ideal for they brought him in for, but he was getting on base pretty well. Davis is .237/.352. How is that better?
Ike: .237/.352/.341, .693 OPS, 98 OPS+
Morneau: .260/.370/.312, .681 OPS, 96 OPS+
Morneau was brought in to provide power. He was put in the cleanup spot. He showed zero power. This year he's having his best year since 2010. Everyone who saw him having this year please raise their hands.
Haha what was Ike brought in to do? The stats are equal at best. If it was a blind look between two players, I'd take the guy with roughly 20 pts better in BA and OBP easily. Raise your hands if you thought Travis Ishikawa was going to be better than Justin Morneau? Because Ishikawa was the original plan.
BleuLineLady wrote:Rocco wrote:BleuLineLady wrote:Rocco wrote:BleuLineLady wrote:I really wish Morneau was still with the Pirates. A good player and seems like a good guy. Major upgrade at 1st compared to Ike Davis.
Morneau last year in Pittsburgh was marginally worse than Davis has been this year. Going to Colorado when Colorado was the only team that really wanted him has revitalized him.
Marginally worse how? The numbers dont show that. Morneau in his short stint was batting .260 with .370 OBP. Not ideal for they brought him in for, but he was getting on base pretty well. Davis is .237/.352. How is that better?
Ike: .237/.352/.341, .693 OPS, 98 OPS+
Morneau: .260/.370/.312, .681 OPS, 96 OPS+
Morneau was brought in to provide power. He was put in the cleanup spot. He showed zero power. This year he's having his best year since 2010. Everyone who saw him having this year please raise their hands.
Haha what was Ike brought in to do? The stats are equal at best. If it was a blind look between two players, I'd take the guy with roughly 20 pts better in BA and OBP easily. Raise your hands if you thought Travis Ishikawa was going to be better than Justin Morneau? Because Ishikawa was the original plan.
Will Carroll @injuryexpert · 5h
Pretend you're the GM of your favorite team. What do you offer for David Price? Word is one MLB-ready SP, one top hitter, +1 gets it done.
Rocco wrote:The Bucs are on Plan I right now.
BleuLineLady wrote:
Ike Davis was a welcome improvement, I applaud management for getting that move done
NashvilleCat wrote:Rocco wrote:The Bucs are on Plan I right now.
Plan Ike From Outer Space
Rocco wrote:NashvilleCat wrote:Rocco wrote:The Bucs are on Plan I right now.
Plan Ike From Outer Space
I realized after I wrote that post that I ended up on I for Ike. It was unintentional. My point was that Ike was a fall-back plan, and at this point there's a non-zero chance he isn't tendered in the offseason and Pedro gets moved to first.
NashvilleCat wrote:Rocco wrote:NashvilleCat wrote:Rocco wrote:The Bucs are on Plan I right now.
Plan Ike From Outer Space
I realized after I wrote that post that I ended up on I for Ike. It was unintentional. My point was that Ike was a fall-back plan, and at this point there's a non-zero chance he isn't tendered in the offseason and Pedro gets moved to first.
Pedro to first would be a relief for the season ticket holders on the first base side. It's like watching Peter Lee come in for a slap shot. You could always tell the regulars behind the net because they were preparing to duck when he let go.
ulf wrote:BleuLineLady wrote:
Ike Davis was a welcome improvement, I applaud management for getting that move done
April 22nd, how about that
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