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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby blackjack68 on Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:18 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:also how many people had errol killed?


Impossible to say, but based on the pins in the map and the piles of bones and clothes in Carcosa, easily several dozen is my guess.
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby Factorial on Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:31 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:finally watched the episode. i still enjoyed the series but felt it was very sloppy - many unanswered questions. not sure if related to it only being 8 episodes or not but there are a number of loose ends not tied up


Yes, but do we always need all the loose ends tied up?
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:36 am

when you do something for work, do you leave 30% of the project unfinished when delivering?
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby shafnutz05 on Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:40 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:when you do something for work, do you leave 30% of the project unfinished when delivering?


Eh, I don't really think that's a suitable comparison at all, and I don't think the series was ever designed to document the entire cult or whatever that started these killings. In the end, you notice the one broadcaster stated that "officials deny any relation to Senator Tuttle". I think some of it is left to the viewer, but I just don't think that was the intent of the show.

"Loose ends" are not always a mistake by the director/writer.
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:42 am

also how did marty turn in to an amazing detective? the tax files, the green ears. wtf. the dude couldn't keep 2 affairs from his wife but remembered an old green house?
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby Gaucho on Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:44 am

Experience.
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby the wicked child on Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:46 am

He also wasn't drinking anymore, which certainly has an effect.
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby shafnutz05 on Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:47 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:also how did marty turn in to an amazing detective? the tax files, the green ears. wtf. the dude couldn't keep 2 affairs from his wife but remembered an old green house?


I also think this was meant to serve as a dichotomy. Recall that throughout the season, Marty struggled with the "Detective's Curse"....missing things that were right under his nose the whole time. This played itself out both at home and at work, but more noticeably at home. His daughter was headed for self-destruction, and he didn't even notice until it was too late (same can be said for his marriage).

At the end of the series, when he finally makes that breakthrough, it's symbolic of him breaking that curse...which also bears itself out when his family comes to visit him in the hospital, and hints at a possible reuniting. Think of it as Marty's triumph. (just my thoughts)
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby Trip McNeely on Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:48 am

shafnutz05 wrote:
Letang Is The Truth wrote:also how did marty turn in to an amazing detective? the tax files, the green ears. wtf. the dude couldn't keep 2 affairs from his wife but remembered an old green house?


I also think this was meant to serve as a dichotomy. Recall that throughout the season, Marty struggled with the "Detective's Curse"....missing things that were right under his nose the whole time. This played itself out both at home and at work, but more noticeably at home. His daughter was headed for self-destruction, and he didn't even notice until it was too late (same can be said for his marriage).

At the end of the series, when he finally makes that breakthrough, it's symbolic of him breaking that curse...which also bears itself out when his family comes to visit him in the hospital, and hints at a possible reuniting. Think of it as Marty's triumph. (just my thoughts)


Agreed. And it shows how Marty was actually a solid detective throughout but was more worried about drinking and girls
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby eddysnake on Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:48 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:also how did marty turn in to an amazing detective? the tax files, the green ears. wtf. the dude couldn't keep 2 affairs from his wife but remembered an old green house?


that was the main theme of the show, he changed over the years. I get that people want loose ends tied up, but read some interviews with the creator/writer, he had no real interest in making a show about a serial killer or cult and he welcomes letting the viewer make their own assumptions (part of the beauty of the show). From some of those interviews and clips at the end of the episodes, it does seem like there were scenes that didn't make the show that would have helped some of these questions, but in the end didn't necessarily change the show.
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby PensFanInDC on Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:57 am

I also don't think his "incompetence" were the reasons his wife found out about the affairs.

Crazy Woman #1 - Came to his house. Can't control that.
Crazy Woman #2 - Picture phones were very new to a lot of people. You even saw him reading the manual right after he bought it. Wives checking their husband's phones was also very new.
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby eddysnake on Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:02 am

when his wife came into the hospital, I got a real creepy vibe that something bad was going to happen, then they showed the kids and it went away, but for a split second, she had this look on her face...
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby Kraftster on Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:02 am

This may have been something that was not true of everyone since I identified personally with many of the things that Cohle the near-nihilist had to say, but in retrospect, I enjoy that we are able to sit in judgment of Cohle at the end of the show much like he did of everyone else in the early days. He provided us with the lens to do so with all of his talk in the early days (the conversation at the revival tent comes to mind especially). It's telling that it is Marty at the end who has to say to Cohle, "that ain't the way the world works, we got ours." In the early days, that was Cohle's way of looking at the world, and he seemed so very secure in his view. Then we hear the conversation about the "warmth." Old Cohle would have relayed that story (if at all) by prefacing it with something like, "Marty, I know it was just my subconscious trying to ease my being out of existence, but I felt this warmth yada yada yada..." So we sit in judgment of Cohle but in doing so can't help but realize the accuracy of the idea that, at the end of the day, any way you want to look at the world is just "a story you tell yourself to get through the day."
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby Factorial on Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:02 am

Or husbands checking their cheating wife's phone.
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby Gaucho on Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:03 am

Moral of the story: don't raise a family if you plan on being good at your profession.

Right?
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby PensFanInDC on Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:15 am

I think it's more "Be careful what you get good at"
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby Gaucho on Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:06 am

Kidding.
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby meecrofilm on Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:34 am

You can't say the man didn't do his homework:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvan ... -life.html
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:45 am

450 page graph? there has to be a more efficient way to present that info
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby eddysnake on Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:20 pm

I would like to see the Nic Cage approach
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby the wicked child on Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:58 pm

Got a free $1 mp3 credit for downloading the Free App of the Day from the Amazon Appstore the other day, so used it to pick up the title song. Damn song gets stuck in my head all the time, so might as well own it.
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:09 am

whats the song called?
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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby roland on Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:28 am

The opening song always reminded me of the guy who sings the songs in Theres Something About Mary.

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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby Factorial on Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:13 am

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Re: True Detective - Spoilers Inside

Postby Factorial on Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:15 am

roland wrote:The opening song always reminded me of the guy who sings the songs in Theres Something About Mary.

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