Factorial wrote: shafnutz05 wrote:
dodint wrote:It's not that easy, but a factor for me is the level of premeditation. A child isn't capable of planning and executing something like this, but a 16 year old knows that it's wrong enough that it takes planning to get it done. That's the line for me. If a 14 year old just snaps and stomps someone to death in gym class the line blurs significantly.
That's actually very well said, and better than I could have put it. This was a coldly calculated attack.
I feel the same way when a group of "teens" attacks some random person in Philly or whatever and severely beats them. It is an absolute joke to try them as juveniles.
When your daughter is 16 I think you will be surprised at how young that is.
I'm not sure how this statement jives with your last post? I mean, I agree that it should be a case-by-case basis. But if my 16 year old daughter joined up with four friends and beat the crap out of someone, I would understand her being tried as an adult.
That being said, the vast majority of those cases tend to involve absent parents, so God willing, I'll never find myself in that situation (knock on wood)