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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby steve784 on Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:07 pm

JoseCuervo wrote:
Ron` wrote:
JoseCuervo wrote:I hear hossa is demanding a trade to return to the pens
No, he wants to be in Atlanta.


He can try as hard as possible, but I don't think even the mighty Marian Hossa could save Atlanta.


I don't know....I bet he's pretty peeved that he's missing out on those sweet Atlanta 3rd jerseys now.
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby Pitts on Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:11 pm

Trying to bump this to 67 pages. Just for charcoals and giggles.
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby Pitts on Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:11 pm

Pitts wrote:Trying to bump this to 67 pages. Just for charcoals and giggles.

Boo. Didn't work.
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby Pitts on Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:11 pm

Pitts wrote:
Pitts wrote:Trying to bump this to 67 pages. Just for charcoals and giggles.

Boo. Didn't work.

Well! That one did!! Woo hoo!
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby cthulhuchrist on Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:49 pm

One can only hope you will soon be bumping this thing to 100
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby littlemoonboot on Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:17 am

Tee hee. The SI cover curse has begun! :twisted:
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby meecrofilm on Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:06 am

Man... watching that game reminded me of how much i truly HATE franzen and osgood. Like. really. HATE :evil:
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby André on Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:47 am

Pens should have Franzén.

Did you know btw it was Franzén that Forsberg collided with when he broke his hand during the lock out?

God I hate Franzén.

F'ing big beard.
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby Ron` on Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:06 am

Hossa is joining Obama's advisery team for less money than McCain offered.
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby Nizzy on Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:00 am

Hossa to TOR
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby Eismann on Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:08 pm

Nizzy wrote:Hossa to TOR


O rly?
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby KG on Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:09 pm

Satan, Fedotenko, Sydor, Gill coming off the books next year....

I'm just saying.... = O
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby Pitts on Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:30 pm

KG wrote:I'm just saying.... = O

What's that I hear?

Gaborik?

:P
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby KG on Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:25 pm

Gaborik or Hossa...I'll compromise for either :D

Seriously...I don't hold a grudge..He want's to come back...Welcome aboard...
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby Eismann on Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:50 am

GAborik to PIT?

wut?
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby JoseCuervo on Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:14 pm

hossa is coming back.

partaaaaaaaaayyyyyy!
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby Ron` on Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:28 pm

Hossa will come back after his dream season is shattered by the Canadians or the Sabres in the playoffs. :(
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby JoseCuervo on Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:15 am

Ron` wrote:Hossa will come back after his dream season is shattered by the Canadians or the Sabres in the playoffs. :(


after his leg is shattered
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby Eismann on Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:31 am

JoseCuervo wrote:
Ron` wrote:Hossa will come back after his dream season is shattered by the Canadians or the Sabres in the playoffs. :(


after his leg is shattered


fow
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby Eismann on Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:34 am

HOssa so far this year:

SPLIT GP G A PTS +/- PIM SOG SPCT PPG PPA SHG SHA GWG ATOI PROD
2008-09 4 0 3 3 3 2 18 0.0 0 3 0 0 0 17:50 23:46

Doesn't track ill will wished upon

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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby Nizzy on Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:27 pm

Eismann wrote:HOssa so far this year:


I'd sya usually the more stars you have on a team, the less point production each player will receive. Just because they added Hossa doesn't mean they are actually going to score an addition 40 goals for this year compared to last season.

Maybe it will take them longer to gel. On the flipside you can't just put these mega stars on a team and ask them produce instantly. However Dats and Zetter worked great together, with the big man Holmstrom. I don't know if/why is changing their lines but a Line of Dats/Zetter/Hossa might just not click. They all seem like puck handlers, and a perfect line to me is a set up center, a scoring winger, and a big man crashing the net.

There is no way Hossa will get a higher point production in Det, then he could have had as Crosby's go to guy.

Detroit sucks anyways
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby Eismann on Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:48 am

Frickin' HOssa.
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby shmenguin on Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:54 am

Nizzy wrote:I'd sya usually the more stars you have on a team, the less point production each player will receive. Just because they added Hossa doesn't mean they are actually going to score an addition 40 goals for this year compared to last season.


depends. if hossa is on line 1 and PP1, he should score more points. without a doubt. if he doesn't it's because he's sucking. it's like crosby and malkin when they're together. they produce at a rate greater than when they're separated. i think what you're talking about is when there are so many stars that some stars get shifted down to line 2 and/or PP2. that's when your theory plays. otherwise, no. if you have hossa playing with a zetterberg/datsyuk/franzen combo AND getting a lot of power play time. he'll produce big.
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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby brwi on Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:12 pm

shmenguin wrote:
Nizzy wrote:I'd sya usually the more stars you have on a team, the less point production each player will receive. Just because they added Hossa doesn't mean they are actually going to score an addition 40 goals for this year compared to last season.


depends. if hossa is on line 1 and PP1, he should score more points. without a doubt. if he doesn't it's because he's sucking. it's like crosby and malkin when they're together. they produce at a rate greater than when they're separated. i think what you're talking about is when there are so many stars that some stars get shifted down to line 2 and/or PP2. that's when your theory plays. otherwise, no. if you have hossa playing with a zetterberg/datsyuk/franzen combo AND getting a lot of power play time. he'll produce big.


He was talking about the TEAM itself scoring 40 more goals than last year simply by adding Hossa to the mix. I agree with Nizzy on that point. I have no doubt that Hossa will produce big and that there will be somewhat of a rise in goals scored(as well as assists), but I don't see DET scoring 40 more than last year unless they go on a big streak, something I doubt they are really aiming for in the regular season right now.

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Re: Hossa to DET

Postby shmenguin on Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:32 pm

brwi wrote:
shmenguin wrote:
Nizzy wrote:I'd sya usually the more stars you have on a team, the less point production each player will receive. Just because they added Hossa doesn't mean they are actually going to score an addition 40 goals for this year compared to last season.


depends. if hossa is on line 1 and PP1, he should score more points. without a doubt. if he doesn't it's because he's sucking. it's like crosby and malkin when they're together. they produce at a rate greater than when they're separated. i think what you're talking about is when there are so many stars that some stars get shifted down to line 2 and/or PP2. that's when your theory plays. otherwise, no. if you have hossa playing with a zetterberg/datsyuk/franzen combo AND getting a lot of power play time. he'll produce big.


He was talking about the TEAM itself scoring 40 more goals than last year simply by adding Hossa to the mix. I agree with Nizzy on that point. I have no doubt that Hossa will produce big and that there will be somewhat of a rise in goals scored(as well as assists), but I don't see DET scoring 40 more than last year unless they go on a big streak, something I doubt they are really aiming for in the regular season right now.

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nizzy's point was in response to hossa's personal stats so far...which kinda implies that the point production argument was about the individual, not the team. i was looking at, "I'd sya usually the more stars you have on a team, the less point production each player will receive". don't know why i included the 2nd sentence. the only point i have is that hossa's point production won't go down just because there are more people around him that can score (unless his level of play goes down)
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