MalkinIsMyHomeboy wrote:Jagr or Hasek?
We’re going to go on the assumption here that Teemu Selanne has retired from the NHL for good this time. Of course, you never know with Selanne, but we’re thinking he’s serious about it this time.
That leaves Jaromir Jagr as the oldest player in the NHL this season. And it also gives Jagr a career distinction that not many players can say they share.
When Jagr made his NHL debut with the Pittsburgh Penguins in 1990-91, he did so as the youngest player in the NHL that season. Born Feb. 15, 1972, Jagr beat out Owen Nolan of the Quebec Nordiques by just three days. Jagr actually had a bit of good fortune in this situation because the three players aside from Nolan who were taken before him in the 1990 draft – Petr Nedved, Mike Ricci and Keith Primeau – were all late birthdays in 1971 who missed the 1989 draft because they were too young.
Fast-forward 24 years later and Jagr is still playing, and playing very well, for the New Jersey Devils. By the time this season ends, Jagr will be 43 years and two months old, which will make him the 10th oldest player to ever play in the NHL. And it will also give him a distinction shared by the legendary Gordie Howe. When Howe played as a rookie for the Detroit Red Wings in 1946-47, he did so as the youngest player in the six-team NHL that season. And when he finished his NHL career with the Hartford Whalers in 1979-80, he did so as the oldest player in the league at 52.
Not sure how many players can say they were both the youngest and oldest player in the NHL during the course of their careers, but the fact that Jagr and Howe are two who can is a testament to both their prodigious talents as young men and their ability to maintain a high level of play throughout length careers. Some players have one or the other, but a precious few have both. And those who do tend to end up with a plaque in the Hockey Hall of Fame.
Jagr is on the verge of a couple of other milestones this season worth celebrating. With 705 career goals, he is sure to pass Mike Gartner and Phil Esposito on the all-time goals list. But here’s where it gets interesting. If he scores 27 this season – remember, he had 24 last year – he’ll pass Marcel Dionne at No. 4 and if he has a wildly successful season and gets 37, he’ll usurp Brett Hull at No. 3.
With 44 points this season – entirely achievable since he had 67 in 2013-14 – Jagr will pass Ron Francis for fourth on the all-time points list. If he takes 210 shots this season – he had 231 with the Devils last season – he’ll be No. 2 behind Ray Bourque on the all-time career list for shots.
Kind of makes you wonder where Jagr would be if he had decided to stay in the NHL instead of playing in Russia for three years and if he hadn’t been robbed of a season-and-a-half with lockouts. But the same could be said for Howe, who retired for two years and played six more in the World Hockey Association before returning to the NHL. Bobby Hull, with 610 career goals, played six-plus seasons in the WHA before returning for a nine-game stint with the Whalers in 1979-80.
And who knows? Jagr hasn’t hinted at retirement and with his level of play so high, it’s not inconceivable that he could play a couple more seasons in the NHL. Regardless of how long he plays, three years after he decides to hang up his skates there will be a place waiting for him in the Hall of Fame.
When New Jersey Devils right winger Jaromir Jagr skates his first shift tonight in a game against the Dallas Stars, he will become just the 19th player in NHL history to appear in at least 1,480 regular season games. In his next nine games, he'll bypass both Rod Brind'Amour and Wayne Gretzky for 17th on the NHL's all-time games list. Meanwhile, Jagr enters tonight two goals away from tying Mike Gartner's 708 goals for sixth on the all-time NHL list.
Back in 2003, when I was nearing my retirement as an NHL referee, an interviewer mentioned Jagr as someone who "isn't a Paul Stewart kind of hockey player." I told him he was 100 percent wrong. I had nothing but the utmost respect for Jagr, then and now. The feeling was always mutual.
I consider Jagr to be the Pele of hockey; a timeless innovator who took his sport to a higher level with his offensive ability. To say that Jagr isn't "my" type of player is like saying I can't appreciate Fred Astaire because he wasn't more like John Wayne or that I probably didn't like Robin Williams because he couldn't take George C. Scott type of roles.
I always got along very with Jaromir when I was an active official. We could always share a laugh on the ice -- I appreciated his sense of humor about the game, which is something we have in common -- and he always dealt with me respectfully. He knew his business and I knew mine.
When I returned to NHL refereeing from my bout with colon cancer, my first game back -- Friday, Nov. 13, 1998 -- was a Penguins vs. Devils game in New Jersey. At the time, Jagr was the Penguins captain. Before the game, I skated past him and said hello. Jaromir surprised me by hugging me.
Then he said, "It doesn't seem like hockey without you, Stewy."
That was one of the most gracious and heartfelt tributes I've ever gotten from a player.
You have to understand something: It's not like Jaromir and I are buddies who socialized off the ice or kept in touch after I retired from the ice. Hell, if we were pals, I'd have asked him back in my single days to send me the phone numbers of a few of his old European supermodel girlfriends (haha).
In all seriousness, our was strictly an on-ice relationship but it was one steeped in respect. He knew I was a former player and even knew that when I was playing, there weren't many Americans in the NHL. More important, he knew I had a feel for the game as a referee.
People have asked me if I'm surprised that Jagr has had so much success in the NHL in his 40s after returning from the KHL. Absolutely not. He has the best core strength and leg drive of any player I've ever seen. He may not have the speed he did as a young player but he is still nearly impossible to muscle off the puck. He also has a burning love for the game and a great competitive drive.
When I was refereeing, I never saw Jagr embarrass the game or himself. He didn't dive. He could disagree with a call respectfully. So what if he had long hair at the time (which was actually a declaration of freedom more than a fashion statement)? So what if he wasn't a physical player in the sense of delivering body checks or fighting?
Some folks have said that Jagr "reinvented" himself as an older veteran player, into being someone who gives back to the game and is a good teammate. From a distance, though, I really think he's always been essentially the same type of person. From what I could determine, he seemed like a guy with a mixture of pride and humility in his character. That is a personality type that is often misunderstood for ego.
Even way back when some hockey and media people used to call Jagr a spoiled prima donna, I thought he was a good guy at heart. There was more than one occasion when I was leaving after a game and see Jagr act graciously with fans. Coming off a multi-point game, he was the type who would stop and pat a kid on the head or give the kid a puck.
Jagr's stint in the KHL did not overlap with my current job in the KHL. However, it is still easy to see how much impact he had on the league. When you go to the Avangard arena in Omsk, there are still photos of Jagr all around the building. The team's fan shop still sells Jagr t-shirts and they remain a popular item.
Jagr, of course, is Czech by nationality and proudly so. He even wears Czech history on his back by his career-long choice of the number 68. But Jagr is really an institution of the game of hockey, and hockey belongs to all of us. Just like Gordie Howe and a select few others, each and every game Jagr plays is a privilege to watch simply because of his participation.
In my view, Jagr can keep playing as long as he chooses. No one is bigger than the game itself -- not even the legends -- but he keeps himself in such outstanding physical condition that he can truly retire on his own terms. That is the ultimate type of longevity.
Jagr doesn't have to play in another game to be one of the all-time greats. He doesn't need to score any more goals or continue to re-write the record book. That's not even what drives the guy. He plays on because hockey is his life and what makes him happy. Just as important, he makes other people happy, too.
How could anyone NOT respect and admire someone who is a true living legend? Keep on keeping on, Jaromir. It just wouldn't seem like hockey without you!
RALEIGH, N.C. -- Monday was already a milestone night for New Jersey Devils right wing Jaromir Jagr, who was playing in his 1,500th NHL game.
But that was only the beginning.
Jagr had a goal and an assist to move ahead of Marcel Dionne for fifth place on the NHL's all-time points list Monday in a 2-1 win against the Carolina Hurricanes at PNC Arena.
Jagr scored on a snap shot from the slot to tie the game in the second period, then made a beautiful pass for the go-ahead goal.
The 42-year-old has been battling flu symptoms for 10 days. A few hours before the game, he wasn't sure if he was well enough to play.
"I told the coach at 4 o'clock, I told him don't play me a lot, I don't feel very well. I had no energy," Jagr said. "But something changed with one hour to go. I started feeling more excited about the game. Everything changed in a minute."
On a night when the Devils (11-13-4) used a patchwork lineup and did not have a lot of jump, the momentum seemed to shift as quickly as Jagr's health.
Scott Gomez set up Jagr to tie the game 1-1 at 14:45 of the second. After a Ron Hainsey turnover, Gomez collected the puck in the corner and found Jagr in the slot, where he beat Carolina goalie Cam Ward with a low shot for his fifth goal.
The goal gives Jagr 710 in his career, seven behind Phil Esposito for fifth all-time.
Gomez and Jagr teamed up for the game-winning goal on the power play with 14 seconds remaining in the second. Gomez moved the puck to Jagr, who quickly circled the net and wrapped a pass to Henrique at the far post for his eighth goal.
Jagr's assist, which moved him past Dionne on the points list, was the 1,062nd of his career, one behind Steve Yzerman for seventh on the NHL's all-time assists list.
The two assists for Gomez were the first points since he signed with New Jersey on Dec. 1. He was quick to express appreciation for what his new linemate has done since coming into the NHL in 1990.
"The guy just knows how to get open and he can still dominate a hockey game," Gomez said. "It's funny, we all grew up being fans of him. To think of the numbers, it's just incredible for hockey and for him. If he plays like that, it makes my job easier. Just get him the puck."
For DeBoer, the two points came as a relief, considering New Jersey was playing without leading goal-scorer Mike Cammalleri, Patrik Elias and others. But he took a moment to admire the accomplishments of Jagr's unique talent.
"I remind myself daily being around him that this is all special," the Devils coach said. "We might never see this again. I don't think I will see this in my lifetime, a guy who plays this long at the level he's playing at."
Jagr has reflected often in recent years, particularly since his return from a three-year stint in the Kontinental Hockey League. He doesn't have a lot to say about his numbers, except to acknowledge his good health and the reason he feels the points have piled up.
"I've played on some pretty good teams with a lot of good players," he said. "That's what it takes. Sooner or later, you score some goals."
Users browsing this forum: Gabe and 2 guests