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What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby DocEmrick on Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:41 pm

You know, ever since that steroid scandal was uncovered, Ovechkin just hasn't been the same. I remember in 2007, 2008 when he was on the cusp of scoring 60 goals, projected for even more the next season. There was talk he'd be the first to reach 100 in the "new" NHL. Now, things have changed, and I can't help to think back to the summer of 2009 and the steroid scandal that sent Sergei Federov and other Capitals packing back to the USSR.

Since, we all know that Ovechkin is a class act, and we are 100% certain that he was in no way involved with the scandal what-so-ever, and would never even consider taking the human growth hormone to enhance his "Gr8" performance (to think otherwise would be preposterous), I wonder if instead the incident affected him psychologically to the point he cries himself to sleep at night over the loss of the reputations of greats such as Sergei Federov.
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby columbia on Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:53 pm

:pop:
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby bhaw on Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:54 pm

This should be posted on the Caps' message board.
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby DocEmrick on Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:56 pm

It would be a good trololol
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby npv708 on Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:56 pm

lol. Thanks for the good laugh doc.
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby columbia on Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:56 pm

There's certainly circumstantial evidence to point to something like this:
His rapid decline in performance and being just plain out of shape and the "dealer" being connected to the Caps.

Does it add up to him missing the juice?
I doubt we will ever know, if true.
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby DocEmrick on Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:57 pm

:pop:
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby Factorial on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:04 am

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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby shmenguin on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:06 am

steroids. fatness. complacence. the first is speculative. the others are near fact.
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby Froggy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:07 am

posted this in another thread...


This is pretty interesting...

The Olympic year, 09/10, in the first 51 games (about 3 weeks before the Olympic break) ovechkin had 42 goals, which put him at .82 goals/game, on pace for about 67 goals, which is righ about his career high.

From that point on, he scored only 8 goals in his final 21 games, for .38 goals/game, or about 31 goals/season, which is about what he put up the season after, and isn't on pace this year to surpass.

Pretty interesting if he was using PED's. He would have had to stop before the olympics. It just seems like a pretty big dropoff. Again, not saying he juiced, but it's certainly plausible.
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby Factorial on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:08 am

What about Kovalchoo?
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby bhaw on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:09 am

shmenguin wrote:steroids. fatness. complacence. the first is speculative. the others are near fact.


It's kind of funny that he seems to be trying to use his unhappiness with BB to mask the complacency. I guess if you're not performing because you don't want to for your coach you hate, it's somehow better than not performing because you just don't want to try. Minimal difference, but that seems to be the line he is taking now.
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby bhaw on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:11 am

Factorial wrote:What about Kovalchoo?


I think Kovalchoo is a by-product of playing in a better conference. He put up huge numbers when he played 8 games per year vs FLA, TB, CAR, and WAS (before they even got good). Now he has to play PHI, PIT, and NYR. The Isles barely count as a team, but that's a huge jump up in competition level when you talk about a majority of your schedule.
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby DocEmrick on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:12 am

I forgot that happened the Olympic year. Doesn't surprise me at all. I wonder what lengths the NHL would go to, to cover something like this up and preserve their image as the class sport of professional sports.
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby bhaw on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:13 am

DocEmrick wrote:I forgot that happened the Olympic year. Doesn't surprise me at all. I wonder what lengths the NHL would go to, to cover something like this up and preserve their image as the class sport of professional sports.


When's the last time you saw an Ovechkin promo for the NHL?
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby columbia on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:14 am

bhaw wrote:
DocEmrick wrote:I forgot that happened the Olympic year. Doesn't surprise me at all. I wonder what lengths the NHL would go to, to cover something like this up and preserve their image as the class sport of professional sports.


When's the last time you saw an Ovechkin promo for the NHL?


Yesterday.
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby Factorial on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:16 am

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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby bhaw on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:19 am

columbia wrote:
bhaw wrote:
DocEmrick wrote:I forgot that happened the Olympic year. Doesn't surprise me at all. I wonder what lengths the NHL would go to, to cover something like this up and preserve their image as the class sport of professional sports.


When's the last time you saw an Ovechkin promo for the NHL?


Yesterday.


I haven't seen one in a while. And I think we can all agree that the prominence of AO everywhere for the NHL has drastically dropped off.
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby DocEmrick on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:19 am

Barring columbia's comment, that's a good point bhaw. I haven't seen a promo that focuses on him in a while.
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby bhaw on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:20 am

columbia - if you can't contribute to the grand conspiracy, please go find one where you can :lol:
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby columbia on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:22 am

bhaw wrote:columbia - if you can't contribute to the grand conspiracy, please go find one where you can :lol:


UFO Warz starts on Tuesday. :pop:
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby Physical_Graffiti on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:26 am

DocEmrick wrote:Barring columbia's comment, that's a good point bhaw. I haven't seen a promo that focuses on him in a while.

Do the Mr. Big commercials count, because they're awesome.
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby Sam's Drunk Dog on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:28 am

bhaw wrote:columbia - if you can't contribute to the grand conspiracy, please go find one where you can :lol:

Not sure there is one since the Sandusky thread was deleted. :pop:
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby DocEmrick on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:33 am

chest
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Re: What happened to Ovechkin?

Postby Staggy on Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:31 am

Sam's Drunk Dog wrote:
bhaw wrote:columbia - if you can't contribute to the grand conspiracy, please go find one where you can :lol:

Not sure there is one since the Sandusky thread was deleted. :pop:


So that's what happened! I've been looking for that **** for like 3 days. I thought my LGP was just screwed up
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