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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby Staggy on Sat May 05, 2012 4:20 pm



Let's see what the league does here. With his history I think it's deserving of multiple games but I'm sure the league will only give him one, if that.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby the wicked child on Sat May 05, 2012 4:22 pm

No way he'll suspend the great ape in the playoffs.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby MRandall25 on Sat May 05, 2012 4:27 pm

the wicked child wrote:No way he'll suspend the great ape in the playoffs.


Not like Ovechkin is playing...

Wait, he's actually getting ice time?
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby Froggy on Sun May 06, 2012 12:26 am

i hate this whole "was his skate on the ice?" argument. it's not like waiving off a goal because of a high stick. the intent of the rule is to prevent people from launching themselves. at what point of the launch process a player's feet leave the ice should be irrelevant. this was not the same as a guy's natural momentum coming through a check takes him off his feet.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby Staggy on Sun May 06, 2012 1:05 am

No mention of this anywhere. McKenzie and Dreger have been quiet on Twitter. But they've been quiet all day so maybe they're just busy or something. That would be a joke if nothing comes of this.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby Rylan on Sun May 06, 2012 5:15 am

I kind of feel Ovie was protecting himself. However, leaving your feet is a no no.

I also feel the whole in the act of blowing the whistle is the dumbest rule ever.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby DudeMan2766 on Sun May 06, 2012 12:18 pm

Did Torts have anything to say about this? I can't imagine he kept quiet seeing as he complains about the weather after a loss
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby Staggy on Sun May 06, 2012 3:32 pm

DudeMan2766 wrote:Did Torts have anything to say about this? I can't imagine he kept quiet seeing as he complains about the weather after a loss


Somebody asked him a question about the officiating and he just shook his head a few times and then walked out. The press conference lasted about 30 seconds total.

Here's a link to it: http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=53&id=176520
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby IMFC on Mon May 07, 2012 12:16 am

The next time 'after the whistle' Giroux hits somebody cleanly during actual play will be the first time.

No way shanny suspends this silver-spoon-in-the-mouth poser either. Twain said get the rep for being an early riser and you can sleep in for the rest of your life. Giroux would have to take off his skate and stab somebody with it to even get a 5 min. major.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby ffemtreed on Mon May 07, 2012 8:31 am

That is the only way OV knows how to hit, it only took a few years for the refs to start calling it on the ice. I am glad his reputation actually caught up with him.

I can't tell if principle point of contact was the head, but if not, no way you can suspend a player for that hit. That is a 2 minute charging penalty.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby pfim on Mon May 07, 2012 9:09 am

I hope Giroux likes watching hockey.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby pfim on Mon May 07, 2012 9:13 am

As for OV-leaving your feet is not enough for a suspension. To me, it looks like the primary point of contact is the shoulder, so I wouldn't expect a suspension.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby shmenguin on Mon May 07, 2012 9:13 am

Giroux will get a fine. Shanahan will have to run through his checklist to find official reasons to suspend him. And he wont find enough. As far a I know giroux isn't a repeat offender and Zubrus wasn't injured. No suspension. It's a joke though. If you have any common sense, you know what should happen. But shanahan has to make his stupid little videos so he has limited options.

Ovechkin won't get suspended either which is more frustrating since he has such a dicey history. This one should be a slam dunk. We'll see how shanahan weasels his way out of that one.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby shmenguin on Mon May 07, 2012 9:14 am

pfim wrote:As for OV-leaving your feet is not enough for a suspension. To me, it looks like the primary point of contact is the shoulder, so I wouldn't expect a suspension.



Was it really the shoulder? I guess I didnt see all the angles. Looked like head contact.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby pfim on Mon May 07, 2012 9:18 am

Looks like shoulder to me. Head needs to be the principal point of contact, don't think it was in this case even if he got him in the head a bit.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby orpchar on Mon May 07, 2012 9:27 am

Zubrus will be suspended 2 games for headbutting Giroux's shoulder.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby penny lane on Mon May 07, 2012 9:46 am

Elliotte Friedman ‏ @FriedgeHNIC
Expect Flyers/Giroux to argue that similar hit in RD 1 by Malkin on Grossmann went unpunished. #hnic


:( don't mention the schenn hit that gave p martin a concussion. I'll be shocked if shanahan suspends
giroux. If the next one wasn't an elimination game, giroux gets 1 game.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby pfim on Mon May 07, 2012 9:49 am

Well, Giroux has a hearing at 11am. We'll see I guess.

I don't think Giroux will have a leg to stand on with the Malkin hit. The view of Giroux's hit is unobstructed, clear target of the head.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby Malkamaniac on Mon May 07, 2012 9:56 am

I'm sorry, but the events that led up to Giroux's hit should factor into the suspension. It was clear he did what he did out of anger. He needs to be sat for a game.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby canaan on Mon May 07, 2012 10:01 am

Giroux lost his cool and acted like a petulant child. malks is right with the events that led up to it. giroux wanted a ticky tack penalty called and was miffed when it wasn't called.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby PfanTN on Mon May 07, 2012 10:19 am

canaan wrote:Giroux lost his cool and acted like a petulant child. malks is right with the events that led up to it. giroux wanted a ticky tack penalty called and was miffed when it wasn't called.

I think the Giroux hit was stupid beyond belief, but how exactly is Marty playing the puck outside the trapezoid a "ticky-tack" call? The damn thing was basically invented because of him.

At the risk of alienating myself here, I'm not about to label Giroux as a "dirty" player quite yet. Stupid, stupid, stupid hit when he obviously lost his cool, and it may cost him the ability to play in what is all liklihood the last game of his teams season, but all the "dirty" stuff I've seen on twitter? Really?
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby Malkamaniac on Mon May 07, 2012 10:22 am

PfanTN wrote:
canaan wrote:Giroux lost his cool and acted like a petulant child. malks is right with the events that led up to it. giroux wanted a ticky tack penalty called and was miffed when it wasn't called.

I think the Giroux hit was stupid beyond belief, but how exactly is Marty playing the puck outside the trapezoid a "ticky-tack" call? The damn thing was basically invented because of him.

At the risk of alienating myself here, I'm not about to label Giroux as a "dirty" player quite yet. Stupid, stupid, stupid hit when he obviously lost his cool, and it may cost him the ability to play in what is all liklihood the last game of his teams season, but all the "dirty" stuff I've seen on twitter? Really?


I won't call him dirty either. Every hockey player has the ability to be dirty. What Giroux did was scumbag city though, and if he's not suspended, this will pretty much tell you how serious Shanhan and the NHL is on being serious with head shots.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby pfim on Mon May 07, 2012 10:23 am

Dirty hit, not sure he's a dirty player. Seems to be a bit of a hot-head, though.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby PfanTN on Mon May 07, 2012 10:28 am

pfim wrote:Dirty hit, not sure he's a dirty player. Seems to be a bit of a hot-head, though.

I think anyone, being totally and completely outplayed and dominated for damn near and entire series, would have the chance to lose their cool though, in all fairness. Hell, we saw it with Crosby in game 3, and at that point the Pens were still in it. If this trend continues though, Giroux would become easy to dislike.
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Re: Sheriff Shanny

Postby canaan on Mon May 07, 2012 10:39 am

PfanTN wrote:
canaan wrote:Giroux lost his cool and acted like a petulant child. malks is right with the events that led up to it. giroux wanted a ticky tack penalty called and was miffed when it wasn't called.

I think the Giroux hit was stupid beyond belief, but how exactly is Marty playing the puck outside the trapezoid a "ticky-tack" call? The damn thing was basically invented because of him.

At the risk of alienating myself here, I'm not about to label Giroux as a "dirty" player quite yet. Stupid, stupid, stupid hit when he obviously lost his cool, and it may cost him the ability to play in what is all liklihood the last game of his teams season, but all the "dirty" stuff I've seen on twitter? Really?

i didnt see a blatant play of the puck in the trapezoid. that being said, even if it were a missed call, you dont stop playing hockey to kick and scream like he has diaper rash. the play was dirty. it doesnt make giroux a dirty player--just an immature one.
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