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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby Tomas on Mon May 07, 2012 12:57 pm

If you go with "former", then Petr Nedved, Ondrej Nemec, Konstantin Koltsov, Tomas Surovy, Janne Pesonen, Alex Goligoski,
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby penny lane on Mon May 07, 2012 6:26 pm

I thought Tomas Surovy would be a perfect wing for Sidney. so wrong. :(
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby Streaks House on Mon May 07, 2012 7:33 pm



Brutal hit on Roman Starchenko of Kazakhstan by Sasha Treille of France
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby Chefpatrick871 on Mon May 07, 2012 10:35 pm

Surprised nobody commented on that hit. Brutal elbow, awful hit.
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby MRandall25 on Mon May 07, 2012 11:23 pm

See how easy it is when you kick people out for hits like that?

I'm curious to see how liong the IIHF suspends him.
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby Tomas on Tue May 08, 2012 2:04 pm

MRandall25 wrote:See how easy it is when you kick people out for hits like that?

I'm curious to see how liong the IIHF suspends him.


4 games (i.e. the rest of the tournament, unless France makes it to the quarterfinals - which is extremely unlikely)
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby MRandall25 on Tue May 08, 2012 2:17 pm

Tomas wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:See how easy it is when you kick people out for hits like that?

I'm curious to see how liong the IIHF suspends him.


4 games (i.e. the rest of the tournament, unless France makes it to the quarterfinals - which is extremely unlikely)


4 games for a "first time offender"

Take notes, NHL
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby Tomas on Tue May 08, 2012 2:22 pm

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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby penny lane on Tue May 08, 2012 2:29 pm

Getzlaf was alleged to have waved his fist at the Finns and said that “you do not want this” of his fist.

Another report said proclaimed himself as “the captain of the Anaheim Ducks” and that he “threatened to knock everyone out in three minutes.”


:roll: :lol: and with 1 arm tied behind his back.
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby llipgh2 on Tue May 08, 2012 2:35 pm



Mirtle tweeted this the next day:

When asked if the team had a curfew, Getzlaf replied "No. We're grown men."


Then act like it, Ryan.
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby Tomas on Fri May 11, 2012 2:04 am

This is a picture of a Czech WC Team rookie, who just scored his very first WC goal (on Thursday against Latvia):

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And yes, he is 40-years old, and this is his first-ever WC.
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby mikey287 on Fri May 11, 2012 11:31 am

Kazakhstan/USA spoiler

Spoiler:
Well, that was embarrassing. Taken to overtime by the Kazakhs? Biggest obstacle in these tournaments is the lack of coaching adjustments to big ice and motivation...and it showed here. Kazakhs just tried to hang with them, USA allowed it. Sweet dish by MaxPac at the end and the finish by Faulk (not at all coincidentally, our two best players in the tournament probably). I'm not doing the math with the amount of games left, but I'm guessing we were gonna need that point...
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby mikey287 on Fri May 11, 2012 11:35 am

Tomas wrote:This is a picture of a Czech WC Team rookie, who just scored his very first WC goal (on Thursday against Latvia):

Image

And yes, he is 40-years old, and this is his first-ever WC.


I thought Nedved represented Canada early in his career? How is he playing for the Czechs now?
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby penny lane on Fri May 11, 2012 12:18 pm

why isn't the great patrick kane working his magic in sweden. I'm sure he could clear a bar in 2 mins. :roll:
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby Rylan on Fri May 11, 2012 1:09 pm

penny lane wrote:why isn't the great patrick kane working his magic in sweden. I'm sure he could clear a bar in 2 mins. :roll:


I would love to be in a bar with Swedish Women. :fist:
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby Tomas on Fri May 11, 2012 1:13 pm

mikey287 wrote:
Tomas wrote:This is a picture of a Czech WC Team rookie, who just scored his very first WC goal (on Thursday against Latvia):

And yes, he is 40-years old, and this is his first-ever WC.


I thought Nedved represented Canada early in his career? How is he playing for the Czechs now?


I believe the requirements for switching countries within IIHF sanctioned tournaments (if the player already played for a different country) are:
- a passport (Nedved never lost the Czech citizenship)
- playing in the league of the "new" country for X (2?,3?) consecutive(?) years. Nedved just completed his 4th consecutive season in the Czech Extraleague.

For non-IIHF sanctioned tournaments, none of this matters, so Nedved - just 2 years after playing for Canada at the OG - skated in the Czech jersey at 1996 World (Canadian?) Cup.
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby Tomas on Fri May 11, 2012 2:14 pm

mikey287 wrote:Kazakhstan/USA spoiler

Spoiler:
Well, that was embarrassing. Taken to overtime by the Kazakhs? Biggest obstacle in these tournaments is the lack of coaching adjustments to big ice and motivation...and it showed here. Kazakhs just tried to hang with them, USA allowed it. Sweet dish by MaxPac at the end and the finish by Faulk (not at all coincidentally, our two best players in the tournament probably). I'm not doing the math with the amount of games left, but I'm guessing we were gonna need that point...


Every point in Helsinki group is huge, because there are basically 3 teams (USA, Slovakia, Switzerland) fighting for the 2 QF spots (assuming that Finland and Canada beat their "gimmies" and advance). If USA beats Finland on Sunday, they are in no matter what (Switzerland won't be able to catch them thanks to the extra point earned today). If not, then it's going to be a huge fight until the last game, and USA will very likely have to beat Swiss to advance.

The official user-unfriendly stats and standings are here:
http://www.iihf.com/competition/272/statistics.html

If you are OK with just country flags, then pretty user friendly standings (updated immediately):
http://isport.blesk.cz/mshokej
(you can toggle between "Moje tabulky" - count the in-progress games vs. "Oficialni tabulky" - count only finished games)
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby mikey287 on Fri May 11, 2012 2:21 pm

Tomas wrote:
mikey287 wrote:
Tomas wrote:This is a picture of a Czech WC Team rookie, who just scored his very first WC goal (on Thursday against Latvia):

And yes, he is 40-years old, and this is his first-ever WC.


I thought Nedved represented Canada early in his career? How is he playing for the Czechs now?


I believe the requirements for switching countries within IIHF sanctioned tournaments (if the player already played for a different country) are:
- a passport (Nedved never lost the Czech citizenship)
- playing in the league of the "new" country for X (2?,3?) consecutive(?) years. Nedved just completed his 4th consecutive season in the Czech Extraleague.

For non-IIHF sanctioned tournaments, none of this matters, so Nedved - just 2 years after playing for Canada at the OG - skated in the Czech jersey at 1996 World (Canadian?) Cup.


Now that you mention it, Tomas, I believe it's four consecutive years. Which is why I had half a thought that the USA would employ Anze Kopitar at this coming Olympics as their ace in the hole. That's right he did play in the World Cup in 1996 with the Czechs...I forgot about that. But as you note, it was a non-IIHF event.

I thought, in most circumstances, that once you represent a country in the IIHF, it was very difficult to switch. I seem to recall Evgeni Nabokov being rejected by the IIHF the first time he tried to switch from Kazakhstan to Russia - but I could be just muddling two different circumstances together. So, I take it that he rejected Canada's invitations for the WC's in recent years? That is, years from 1996-2006 or thereabouts. Or was he just not considered good enough?

Thanks for the links in the second post! The IIHF website is quite difficult to navigate!
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby Gaucho on Sun May 13, 2012 3:22 pm

Germany 0 Norway 6. After half an hour. Oy...
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby canaan on Sun May 13, 2012 3:27 pm

Shame on salmela for that hit on goligoski--he should be suspended for the duration of the tournament
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby Tomas on Sun May 13, 2012 3:55 pm

Ovechkin+Semin to join Team Russia for the QF game.
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby Tomas on Sun May 13, 2012 4:55 pm

Norway is the next hockey superpower?? :shock:
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby Streaks House on Sun May 13, 2012 8:11 pm

canaan wrote:Shame on salmela for that hit on goligoski--he should be suspended for the duration of the tournament


It's being reviewed, so this could be a possibility.

Whatever happened to Anssi Salmela? Is he playing in Europe? Last thing I remember about Salmella:
Spoiler:


Listen to the audio, they use the term "it's shoulder to shoulder...he does get some head...sometimes nothing you can do". This hit happens today, I'd hope the attitude would be different, but it all depends on the commentators
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby Puffymuffin on Mon May 14, 2012 4:54 am

Salmela got 3 games.
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Re: World Championships 2012

Postby Penspal on Mon May 14, 2012 8:01 am

Suspensions and bad hits in international hockey? What's up with that? Fighting has never been a staple in international hockey, so the arguement that "on ice policing" is not valid in this case. What does that say about the respect level that "pro - calibre" players have for each other?
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