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HockeyDaddy wrote:I hate the Flyers, Paul Holmgren is the devil, and I hate offer sheets. Now that that is out of the way:
I have never heard that Weber wants out of Nashville. I do know that he was extremely upset that Suter did not re-up with the Preds and that situation could have caused him to consider other options. This is an interesting situation. The Flyers could have done the Preds a favor by getting him to sign that OS, all they have to do is match it and he is a Pred for life. I am not sure that it was a great move be Weber to sign it, if he knows that Nashville will match. His loyalty to the team that he captains can now be called into question.
shmenguin wrote:AlexPKeaton wrote:A 14 year deal sounds like it should be invalidated by Betman honestly.
Its basically the same as Sid's deal, no?
At first glance, it seems like Nashville should just pack up their stuff and leave the league if they don't match this.
AlexPKeaton wrote:HockeyDaddy wrote:I hate the Flyers, Paul Holmgren is the devil, and I hate offer sheets. Now that that is out of the way:
I have never heard that Weber wants out of Nashville. I do know that he was extremely upset that Suter did not re-up with the Preds and that situation could have caused him to consider other options. This is an interesting situation. The Flyers could have done the Preds a favor by getting him to sign that OS, all they have to do is match it and he is a Pred for life. I am not sure that it was a great move be Weber to sign it, if he knows that Nashville will match. His loyalty to the team that he captains can now be called into question.
Do they have to match the yearly cap hit or the actual structure of the contract? The yearly cap hit for them should be a no brainer, but they might not have the money up front that the Flyers are throwing at him.
HockeyDaddy wrote:AlexPKeaton wrote:HockeyDaddy wrote:I hate the Flyers, Paul Holmgren is the devil, and I hate offer sheets. Now that that is out of the way:
I have never heard that Weber wants out of Nashville. I do know that he was extremely upset that Suter did not re-up with the Preds and that situation could have caused him to consider other options. This is an interesting situation. The Flyers could have done the Preds a favor by getting him to sign that OS, all they have to do is match it and he is a Pred for life. I am not sure that it was a great move be Weber to sign it, if he knows that Nashville will match. His loyalty to the team that he captains can now be called into question.
Do they have to match the yearly cap hit or the actual structure of the contract? The yearly cap hit for them should be a no brainer, but they might not have the money up front that the Flyers are throwing at him.
From what I understand, the Preds only option is matching the exact same offer that he signed with the Flyers.
Here is another kicker: Weber has played 7 seasons in the league. This would take him to his 21st season. If he retires before that, his contract would come off the books. The amount of years is really no risk.
Pitt87 wrote:shmenguin wrote:AlexPKeaton wrote:A 14 year deal sounds like it should be invalidated by Betman honestly.
Its basically the same as Sid's deal, no?
At first glance, it seems like Nashville should just pack up their stuff and leave the league if they don't match this.
I remember reading somewhere (twitter maybe so FWIW...) that Poile would match any offer for Weber. Sounds like a gambit by GMPH to force someone's hand. They should make him eat this and have virtually no good picks to support their system.
Pitt87 wrote:HockeyDaddy wrote:AlexPKeaton wrote:HockeyDaddy wrote:I hate the Flyers, Paul Holmgren is the devil, and I hate offer sheets. Now that that is out of the way:
I have never heard that Weber wants out of Nashville. I do know that he was extremely upset that Suter did not re-up with the Preds and that situation could have caused him to consider other options. This is an interesting situation. The Flyers could have done the Preds a favor by getting him to sign that OS, all they have to do is match it and he is a Pred for life. I am not sure that it was a great move be Weber to sign it, if he knows that Nashville will match. His loyalty to the team that he captains can now be called into question.
Do they have to match the yearly cap hit or the actual structure of the contract? The yearly cap hit for them should be a no brainer, but they might not have the money up front that the Flyers are throwing at him.
From what I understand, the Preds only option is matching the exact same offer that he signed with the Flyers.
Here is another kicker: Weber has played 7 seasons in the league. This would take him to his 21st season. If he retires before that, his contract would come off the books. The amount of years is really no risk.
Thats why it should be invalidated; that was the problem with the Kovachoo contract...
farnham16 wrote:The Preds have to match this. They will lose all their fans if they don't. They simply can't afford to lose both Weber and Suter in the same offseason.
HockeyDaddy wrote:Pitt87 wrote:shmenguin wrote:AlexPKeaton wrote:A 14 year deal sounds like it should be invalidated by Betman honestly.
Its basically the same as Sid's deal, no?
At first glance, it seems like Nashville should just pack up their stuff and leave the league if they don't match this.
I remember reading somewhere (twitter maybe so FWIW...) that Poile would match any offer for Weber. Sounds like a gambit by GMPH to force someone's hand. They should make him eat this and have virtually no good picks to support their system.
Rumor is that NSH was working with a few teams to trade Weber, PHI lost out and quickly signed him to this deal so that a deal with another team could not be completed.
Pitt87 wrote:shmenguin wrote:AlexPKeaton wrote:A 14 year deal sounds like it should be invalidated by Betman honestly.
Its basically the same as Sid's deal, no?
At first glance, it seems like Nashville should just pack up their stuff and leave the league if they don't match this.
I remember reading somewhere (twitter maybe so FWIW...) that Poile would match any offer for Weber. Sounds like a gambit by GMPH to force someone's hand. They should make him eat this and have virtually no good picks to support their system.
HockeyDaddy wrote:Giroux is a RFA in 2014. Just sayin'.
Idoit40fans wrote:HockeyDaddy wrote:Giroux is a RFA in 2014. Just sayin'.
I would bet a whole lot of money that he is never an RFA.
Idoit40fans wrote:Pitt87 wrote:shmenguin wrote:AlexPKeaton wrote:A 14 year deal sounds like it should be invalidated by Betman honestly.
Its basically the same as Sid's deal, no?
At first glance, it seems like Nashville should just pack up their stuff and leave the league if they don't match this.
I remember reading somewhere (twitter maybe so FWIW...) that Poile would match any offer for Weber. Sounds like a gambit by GMPH to force someone's hand. They should make him eat this and have virtually no good picks to support their system.
Losing a couple firsts, a second and third would be worth it. Is that value high enough for 4 firsts? Either way, it would be worth it for sure.
HockeyDaddy wrote:Idoit40fans wrote:HockeyDaddy wrote:Giroux is a RFA in 2014. Just sayin'.
I would bet a whole lot of money that he is never an RFA.
I would too, however, that year they will also need to work out deals with Schenn and Couturier.
Digitalgypsy66 wrote:Interesting: if the Preds match, they can't trade him for a year. The Flyers must have slipped a NMC in that contract. Or is that a part of an offer sheet contract?
Idoit40fans wrote:HockeyDaddy wrote:Idoit40fans wrote:HockeyDaddy wrote:Giroux is a RFA in 2014. Just sayin'.
I would bet a whole lot of money that he is never an RFA.
I would too, however, that year they will also need to work out deals with Schenn and Couturier.
Craig Adams will need a contract worked out at the same time as Malkin is eligible to be negotiated with. It sounds like an extreme example but its not.
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