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Letang Is The Truth wrote:because they are doing well in the ahl makes them better than the nhl team?
mikey287 wrote:Rissling, based on your name, you sound old enough to remember the old Soviet teams...it's a different style over there...if you (or anyone) rejects the KHL on its lack of physicality and won't take to the AHL, I'd recommend the SM-Liiga A in Finland...probably the most physical of the KHL, SEL, SM-Liiga group. More straightforward style of play.
Also interesting that the QMJHL - a more offensive, softer league - gets praise while the KHL gets darts...the further west you go, the more physical it gets...
RisslingsMissingTeeth wrote:mikey287 wrote:Rissling, based on your name, you sound old enough to remember the old Soviet teams...it's a different style over there...if you (or anyone) rejects the KHL on its lack of physicality and won't take to the AHL, I'd recommend the SM-Liiga A in Finland...probably the most physical of the KHL, SEL, SM-Liiga group. More straightforward style of play.
Also interesting that the QMJHL - a more offensive, softer league - gets praise while the KHL gets darts...the further west you go, the more physical it gets...
Interesting input mikey. Going to see if I can catch a SM-Liiga A game at some point. I never realized how much I valued checking and intensity until I watched a dozen KHL games and kept zoning out. They intentionally avoid each other and it ticks you (me) off!
The QMJHL is a junior league with teenagers (holy crap but the goalie for one of the teams pulled his helmet off the other week and he looked 12 years old). I don't expect them to hit each other solidly yet like I would expect adults to do in the KHL. I am being critical of the KHL for a reason. I think it is a soft league. If we end up losing some Russians because of this lock-out, I won't be shedding any tears. Go play in your non-contact league. My over 40 no hit league has 10 times the contact (probably because we are too tired to stop).
mikey287 wrote:Definitely a softer league. Different strategies brought about by developmental system, different rules, different ice sizes. More solo rushes, but less ability for checking along the boards because you end up X amount of feet (er...meters) away from where you're supposed to be defending. Gap control concerns abound, positional integrity compromised. Game is broken down into one-on-one situations whenever possible because that's the biggest edge a player can get on the "house" - 50/50. When not dealing with superstar talent (the KHL has talent, but not elite talent top-to-bottom), the "extra" ice surface just adds a gutter to the rink. People that think it will add more to scoring aren't thinking about game fundamentals. As evidenced by KHL and SEL, two of the lowest scoring leagues in the world.
RisslingsMissingTeeth wrote:mikey287 wrote:Definitely a softer league. Different strategies brought about by developmental system, different rules, different ice sizes. More solo rushes, but less ability for checking along the boards because you end up X amount of feet (er...meters) away from where you're supposed to be defending. Gap control concerns abound, positional integrity compromised. Game is broken down into one-on-one situations whenever possible because that's the biggest edge a player can get on the "house" - 50/50. When not dealing with superstar talent (the KHL has talent, but not elite talent top-to-bottom), the "extra" ice surface just adds a gutter to the rink. People that think it will add more to scoring aren't thinking about game fundamentals. As evidenced by KHL and SEL, two of the lowest scoring leagues in the world.
You wouldn't believe how much I have thought about this exact thing. Everything you wrote were things I have been thinking about, especially the whole concept of 'would bigger rinks make the NHL better or worse?'. The conclusion I have reached is that the NHL would be better if they would just enforce the rules they have. They don't need any more changes to the game although one rule I would add is if you face wash after a goalie puck freeze you are immediately in the box. I'm done with that aspect of the game. players look like little babies out there face washing all the time.
BigMcK wrote:Was at the Ontario Reign Vs. San Francisco Bulls game last night. Thoughts and observations:
* $44.00 for 4 tickets, 4 chicken sandwiches, waffle fries and a soda.
* Didn't realize how much I missed watching live hockey until being back in a chilled arena with painted ice and professional players. Also the sound of someone being checked into the boards, skates cutting ice, and player's chirping at each other is best experienced in person.
* Not sure why teams in California are in the ECHL.
* Devin Setoguchi, with a NHL contract for the Wild at 2.75 Million plays for the Reign. Kind of wondering what he thinks about playing in front of 4,000 people instead of NHL crowds. He has a wickedly mean and accurate wrist shot. While at the same time, rookie Mario Lamoureux earned himself a hat-trick.
* Beer was $9.75 for a glass of Stella, Shock Top, Blue Moon. Stupid, crazy expensive. No thanks!
* It was really cool to see how many fans had differing Reign jersey's from different charity games.
* Before the final five minutes in the third, it turned to Fist Night, with three fights in a row after each puck drop.
* The NHL is obviously faster and competitive at a much higher level, but I'll be just fine with a season of minor league hockey at reasonable seat prices closer to the glass.
Kaizer wrote:I learned that if you visit flyers sites, you can still keep the hate alive just by reading.
mikey287 wrote:Ah, yes, Colton Yellow Horn...WHL scorer of note a few years back. Haven't heard that name in a little while. How's Jean-Francois Berube looking? If you've seen him/noticed him, that is...
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