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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby meow on Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:13 pm

Briere officially dunzo in Philly. Is there a sports franchise that is more disrespectful to it's players than Philly? I know he's overpaid and it's a business blah, blah, blah, but I don't understand how it makes for an attractive atmosphere to want to come into.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Pitts on Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:43 pm

meow wrote:Briere officially dunzo in Philly. Is there a sports franchise that is more disrespectful to it's players than Philly? I know he's overpaid and it's a business blah, blah, blah, but I don't understand how it makes for an attractive atmosphere to want to come into.

Because you can sign there, make an absurd amount of money, then just hang out on IR and make bank. What easier way to become a bagillionaire. Philly loves to give away dough.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby columbia on Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:47 pm

Flyers Statement on Danny Briere
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=674673
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby meow on Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:43 pm

Pitts wrote:
meow wrote:Briere officially dunzo in Philly. Is there a sports franchise that is more disrespectful to it's players than Philly? I know he's overpaid and it's a business blah, blah, blah, but I don't understand how it makes for an attractive atmosphere to want to come into.

Because you can sign there, make an absurd amount of money, then just hang out on IR and make bank. What easier way to become a bagillionaire. Philly loves to give away dough.

I'm in the wrong business.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby lemieuxReturns on Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:54 pm

Pitts wrote:
meow wrote:Briere officially dunzo in Philly. Is there a sports franchise that is more disrespectful to it's players than Philly? I know he's overpaid and it's a business blah, blah, blah, but I don't understand how it makes for an attractive atmosphere to want to come into.

Because you can sign there, make an absurd amount of money, then just hang out on IR and make bank. What easier way to become a bagillionaire. Philly loves to give away dough.


Not only that... but then you get bought out, and get 2/3rds the money owed to you and sign a completely new deal with another team. Essentially double dipping for the years that remained on your first contract.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Beveridge on Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:58 pm

I don't know why people rip on Philly and the LTIR thing. Pronger on LTIR is better for Pens than not by a long shot.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Pavel Bure on Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:08 pm

Beveridge wrote:I don't know why people rip on Philly and the LTIR thing. Pronger on LTIR is better for Pens than not by a long shot.

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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby joopen on Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:49 pm

Beveridge wrote:I don't know why people rip on Philly and the LTIR thing. Pronger on LTIR is better for Pens than not by a long shot.

For how long tho?
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby bhaw on Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:00 pm

I don't have a problem with the Pronger thing. The guy is legitimately hurt. Not sure how you hold that against them. It's not like they made up his injury.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Kovy27 on Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:23 am

Briere will have 20 teams asking for his services when he becomes a FA on July 5. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up Detroit or Buffalo.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Idoit40fans on Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:53 am

:scared: Ruff to Dallas :scared:
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby MRandall25 on Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:26 am

I guess that team needed a younger voice...
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby KG on Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:01 am

Tippett re-signed with the Coyotes as well...
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Pitt87 on Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:06 am

bhaw wrote:I don't have a problem with the Pronger thing. The guy is legitimately hurt. Not sure how you hold that against them. It's not like they made up his injury.


This... anyone who thinks they would not rather have had him playing this whole time is not considering that Pronger is easily Top 5 defenders in the time that he played. You don't want that guy in the owners box....
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby largegarlic on Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:10 pm

Idoit40fans wrote::scared: Ruff to Dallas :scared:


Can anybody explain why Ruff is taken to be a really good coach? I don't mean this in a snarky way at all; I'm just curious. When we were all speculating the Bylsma would get the boot, a good many people proposed Ruff a replacement. As far as I can tell, Buffalo had decent talent during Ruff's tenure, and Ruff got decent results...nothing that screams "coaching genius" on the surface of things. I appreciated that Buffalo, for the most part under Ruff, played an up-tempo, end-to-end style that was fun to watch, but that's about it.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Idoit40fans on Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:22 pm

Buffalo had no talent for much of Ruff's tenure and he got good results.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Pavel Bure on Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:24 pm

Yeah I don't get the Ruff love either. He had a good team when the lockout ended and then because he had been in place for so long was dubbed a good coach. I don't buy it.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby canaan on Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:42 pm

Pavel Bure wrote:Yeah I don't get the Ruff love either.

heh
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby DelPen on Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:06 pm

Ruff is a good coach. Not his fault that injuries and Ryan Miller imploding when it matters along with getting cheated by Dallas and Hull for a Cup happened.

A lot can be said about Bylsma too but I haven't watched enough Sabres to see if Ruff is as stubborn when things clearly aren't working as Bylsma is.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby DelPen on Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:06 pm

It's going to be interesting to see what a Vaignault team with a real goalie can do in the playoffs now. Torts in Vancouver will be hilarious.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby mikey287 on Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:00 pm

largegarlic wrote:
Idoit40fans wrote::scared: Ruff to Dallas :scared:


Can anybody explain why Ruff is taken to be a really good coach? I don't mean this in a snarky way at all; I'm just curious. When we were all speculating the Bylsma would get the boot, a good many people proposed Ruff a replacement. As far as I can tell, Buffalo had decent talent during Ruff's tenure, and Ruff got decent results...nothing that screams "coaching genius" on the surface of things. I appreciated that Buffalo, for the most part under Ruff, played an up-tempo, end-to-end style that was fun to watch, but that's about it.


Ability to adapt and unite players into a wholesale system.

Think to late 90's Sabres: defensive minded, limited game breaking ability and offensive creativity. Helped mold a strong backchecking team that did a good job removing rebounds from the offensive team to reduce possession time.

Fast forward to post-second lockout: One of the top coaches to adapt to the "new NHL" and molded a team of small, fast, skilled players to play an up-tempo style that utilized puck-movers (see: emergence of Brian Campbell and his meteoric rise) from the back end to make stretch passes. Would have gone to 2006 Finals if 5 of 6 d-men weren't hurt in Conference Finals vs. Carolina.

Does a good job of generating offense through a quality PMD (Zhitnik, Woolley, Campbell, Ehrhoff), creates a good amount of goals from his back line.

Stubborn and stuck in his ways. Maybe not the best in terms of in-game adjustments. Not sure about his communication ability, I've heard mixed reviews. Maybe not the best in terms of youthful development.

Lindy was a ham n' egger when he played. Pretty rough skater, no particular puck skills, but a hard worker that did well defensively. He played defense and left wing. But was a great team guy...named captain at some point or another. And he likes to keep a player or two like that handy, at least to some degree. Jochen Hecht comes to mind past his expiration...
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby marek on Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:58 am

Bernier to Toronto?!?!
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby penny lane on Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:59 am

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 8m Leafs acquire Bernier from the Kings for Matt Frattin, Ben Scrivens and second round pick in 2014 or 2015.


we have a trade~ practicing for next sunday. 8-)
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby npv708 on Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:10 pm

Wow. Love the trade from the Leafs perspective. Reimer and Bernier are a great 1-2 punch.
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Re: Around the League: Transactions

Postby Pavel Bure on Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:10 pm

penny lane wrote:
James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 8m Leafs acquire Bernier from the Kings for Matt Frattin, Ben Scrivens and second round pick in 2014 or 2015.


we have a trade~ practicing for next sunday. 8-)

Reimer to the Pens E2
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