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Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby Kovy27 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:28 pm

Vanek to NYI for Moulson, 2014 1st, and 2015 2nd.

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#ISLES TRANSACTION: Islanders acquire Thomas Vanek from Buffalo Sabres for Matt Moulson & picks - http://nyisl.es/qe0js
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby pugilist13 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:30 pm

WOW!
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby columbia on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:31 pm

pugilist13 wrote:WOW!
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby Kovy27 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:32 pm

Feels like the Isles gave up A LOT for a UFA at the end of the season and McKenzie confirms that the Isles do not have an agreement with Vanek for an extension.
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby mikey287 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:35 pm

Pretty big deal there. Good that Buffalo understands how bad they are and aren't wasting any time with pieces that they aren't going to move forward with. Matt Moulson is a good soldier, maybe you can introduce some levity into a terrible situation there. Gotta probably put him with Tyler Ennis, which hurts me as a Marcus Foligno owner.

Vanek is a UFA at the end of the year. The cap hit is north of $7 million, the real money is $6.4M I believe. We'll see what the Isles have planned here. Vanek is a lot of more skilled than Moulson, but also excellent in front of the net, look out for John Tavares now...
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby pcm on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:36 pm

Good for the Isle. Tavares+Vanek = sick. A little surprising they went after Vanek over Miller. But nevertheless, watch out crappy metro division... (now they just need a goalie and some defense.)
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby Kovy27 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:38 pm

I'm interested in seeing how Moulson does without JT. I just don't see it in Buffalo, he could easily struggle.
Vanek, however, could easily be a 40 goal scorer with JT now.
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby pcm on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:39 pm

Vanek was a 40 goal scorer without Tavares.
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby pcm on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:42 pm

Kovy27 wrote:Feels like the Isles gave up A LOT for a UFA at the end of the season and McKenzie confirms that the Isles do not have an agreement with Vanek for an extension.


A 1st and a 2nd to upgrade Moulson to Vanek, and have an excellent shot at re-signing an elite forward? I'd say that's a great deal for the Isle.
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby KG on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:43 pm

Isles should have gotten Miller while they were at it...
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby mikey287 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:47 pm

They took Moulson away from Tavares a little bit this season, but not long enough to make a lot of it. I wonder if Moulson has that next level - I know it was his first playoffs, but he was a complete non-factor vs. Pittsburgh in the 2013 ECQF. Him being a UFA at the end of the year and last year's playoff performance might have greased the wheels a little bit perhaps.
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby Gaucho on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:52 pm

"A Shift In Power"?
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby pcm on Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:59 pm

I dont get why Buffalo would want Moulson. He's a UFA, he'll take up a roster spot / playing time from young guys. Unless they're thinking he's another UFA they can move at the deadline, they should have gotten an asset for the future...
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby Gaucho on Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:05 pm

Including Moulson probably had to do with his (and Vanek's) salary. They should be able to get a pick or something for him at the deadline.
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby Idoit40fans on Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:36 pm

Pretty great trade for buffalo. This makes that isles top line even more deadly...more stuff that other people already said.
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby mikey287 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:40 pm

All of their young guys are already playing in Buffalo. So, no worries there. If anything, too many young players are playing already. But yes, it won't be hard to get a pick for Moulson at the deadline if they determine he's not a part of the plan.
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby Lt. Dish on Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:54 pm

I'm not pleased about this trade from a Pens' fan POV--a fast team adding more skill...
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby Malkamaniac on Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:07 pm

This deal is pretty good for me Fantasy wise. Tavares all day.
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby Kovy27 on Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:16 pm

pcm wrote:Vanek was a 40 goal scorer without Tavares.


With Poms. He wasn't going to be a 40 goal scorer this year. Now he is.

Tavares is now the #2 center in NHL behind Nicklas Backstrom, of course. :lol:
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby Jim on Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:11 am

In the end, Buffalo won this trade. Vanek was gone at the end of the season and they would have gotten nothing for him. Now they have a #1, a #2 and a a guy that has more goals than Vanek over the last 4+ seasons and whom they could potentially resign. Full picture, Buffalo is in a much better spot today then they were at the start of the weekend.
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby Idoit40fans on Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:37 am

Kovy27 wrote:
pcm wrote:Vanek was a 40 goal scorer without Tavares.


With Poms. He wasn't going to be a 40 goal scorer this year. Now he is.

Tavares is now the #2 center in NHL behind Nicklas Backstrom, of course. :lol:


I assumed he was behind Giroux.
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby GSdrums87 on Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:48 am

A first and a second for potentially 10-15 more goals? Go for it, Islanders. Doesn't fix their holes on D and in goal.
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby MRandall25 on Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:50 am

It was a very parallel move, then they threw in the draft picks
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby brwi on Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:55 am

pcm wrote:
Kovy27 wrote:Feels like the Isles gave up A LOT for a UFA at the end of the season and McKenzie confirms that the Isles do not have an agreement with Vanek for an extension.


A 1st and a 2nd to upgrade Moulson to Vanek, and have an excellent shot at re-signing an elite forward? I'd say that's a great deal for the Isle.


What makes you think they have an "excellent shot" at re-upping Vanek at the end of the year? Vanek and his agent had no idea this trade was coming and obviously have had no discussion with the Isles before and his agent stated right afterwards that he wasn't going to talk contract at all during the season.

If they don't re-up Vanek, this trade will be judged a fail, barring the Isles going deep into the post-season.
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Re: Vanek Traded to NYI

Postby meow on Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:56 am

I'd wager good money that Moulson ends the year somewhere other than Buffalo.
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