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Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby DudeMan2766 on Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:29 pm

Looking for the article now but twitter seems as tho it is confirmed. McKenzie is retweeting confirmation
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:32 pm

LeBrun confirmed it.

And of course Philly wants to get Downie back. Nothing else is working, might as well get someone to try to intentionally injure people alongside Rinaldo.
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby Brugrabud on Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:39 pm

WEWT I can like Talbot again!
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby ffemtreed on Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:43 pm

Wow, Rinaldo and Downie on the same team, maybe even same line...... I guess philly wants to get back to leading the league in suspensions again so they can complain about it and use it as an excuse for losing.
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby llipgh2 on Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:44 pm

Holmgren is wonderfully inept...
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby TheGhostofGoulet on Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:48 pm

Plan the parade Philly!
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby Jim on Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:48 pm

Talbot was not dirty enough for them...
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby Kovy27 on Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:54 pm

Oh boy...PIMs just went up in Philly and goals went down. Have fun with that ****.
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby GSdrums87 on Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:54 pm

Why mess with that chemistry? Just what Colorado needs, more centers.
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby canaan on Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:57 pm

Kovy27 wrote:Oh boy...PIMs just went up in Philly and goals went down. Have fun with that ****.

i dont know about the goals thing. they both arent great goal scorers, but at least downie has a 20g season under his belt.
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby shoeshine boy on Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:58 pm

congrats to Max for getting out of that Titanic of a team!
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby mikey287 on Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:07 pm

On the ice, it makes sense for Philadelphia. Not sure about the timing for the red hot Avs here. Philly needed some spark and a little more offensive help, they get that in Downie. Talbot was disposable with all the centers they have in Philadelphia. The Avs though, don't really need one, Duchene, Stastny and MacK down the middle plus natural center Ryan O'Reilly playing wing with Duchene...plus the Avs have the #1 PK in the league already. Leads me to believe that this is another off-ice issue with Downie...maybe not any one in particular thing, but he has a negative reputation around the league. The first time he was in Philly he had a babysitter follow him around Dez Bryant style.

Strange timing for the Avs unless they're that desperate to distract from the Varly thing (which I don't actually believe), it's a good on-ice trade for Philadelphia. They aren't any easier to play against now, that's for sure. This a Holmgren/Berube baby that's for sure.

I guess the Avs figure they have some big games coming their way and that's where - as we know - Max crafts his superstar status...
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby pcm on Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:10 pm

Very strange. Downie was playing on the top line with Duchene and Reilly, and playing pretty well for them. Not sure why they'd mess with what they've got going on. Unless it's a brilliant move to deflect some of the negative vibes surrounding Varlmov's arrest.

From a pure hockey standpoint, Talbot brings the playoff experience, but is otherwise a downgrade in skill all around. He's a center, which they don't need unless they're planning on trading Statsny and moving MacKinnon up to the 2nd line. But at this point, MacKinnon has hit a bit of a wall since busting out of the gate, so I wouldn't excatly say that that's a foregone conclusion.

I'd love to have Downie on the Pens. The guy has the skill to play alongside elite talent, grinds it out, and gives everything he's got. Definitely wouldn't have minded seeing a hot-head line of Downie-Malkin-Neal.
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby llipgh2 on Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:31 pm

mikey287 wrote: Leads me to believe that this is another off-ice issue with Downie...maybe not any one in particular thing, but he has a negative reputation around the league. The first time he was in Philly he had a babysitter follow him around Dez Bryant style.

Strange timing for the Avs unless they're that desperate to distract from the Varly thing (which I don't actually believe), it's a good on-ice trade for Philadelphia.



You may have answered your own question.

The Avs are going to expend a lot of time deflecting the negative fallout from Varly. If Downie is having issues, instead of having to deal with those as well, they sent him to the Flyers to let them worry about him.
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby shmenguin on Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:46 pm

Downie is a better player - good trade for the flyers.

although, since talbot only tries hard when it's convenient for him, he might actually look good now that he has a new group of bar sluts to try to impress.
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby pressure=9Pa on Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:46 pm

It seems like a "Dump Downie" move at face value, I just don't know why.
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby PghSkins on Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:11 pm

You're now out of my penalty box, Max.
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:20 pm

Noooooo i downie was so useful in fantasy as an av
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby pcm on Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:21 pm

On further consideration, I'm starting to like this for the Avs. It's a bold move from a position of power, but you stay ahead of the game by being proactive like this.

Downie is the superior player. But Talbot is signed for 2 more years. Downie is a UFA after this year. They'd already been toying with moving Parenteau up to the 1st line, dropping Downie down to play with MacKinnon.

Talbot on the 3rd line gives them more defensive presence there. They've got tons of offense, so sacrificing a little of that for a more defensively oriented vet is not a bad way to go, seeing as that's their greatest weakness.

The biggest question will be whether going from a 3 line attack to a 2 line attack with a more defensive checking 3rd line is the right recipe for success? It certainly hasn't worked very well for the Pens.
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:21 pm

pressure=9Pa wrote:It seems like a "Dump Downie" move at face value, I just don't know why.

Because downie is a significantly better player.
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby MRandall25 on Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:16 pm

I've always hated Downie for this:

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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:38 pm

Thats pretty far from the worst thing he has done. There are plenty of players that arent considered dirty that have made hits like that.
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby pcm on Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:39 pm

Downie cleaned up his act significantly after leaving Philthy. I guess now he'll have license to release his inner scumbag.
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby columbia on Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:41 pm

This is one of those occasions where the Flyers are regressing to their base instincts and improving their team at the same time.
I'll give them that.
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Re: Talbot to Avs for Downie

Postby sniper on Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:08 pm

Clearly Varlamov's gf and Downie were causing problems, so he beat her and the team got rid of Downie. ~ I completely made that up, obviously.
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