Jim wrote:I didn't really understand retiring Foote's number until I looked into his stats. He played 16.5 season for that organization. Only 2.5 anywhere else, all Columbus. 967 games played with Colorado/Que, That is a lot of games: 967gp, 56-203-259 +129 1279PIM. For a non-offensive guy, to be a +129 is rather impressive.
That is the kind of guy that you can consider retiring the number of. Someone that played the vast majority of his career with your team and he did a really solid job of it. Ron Francis is #4 in scoring in the history of the game, #4. Only Gretzky, Messier and Howe have more points... But I would vote against retiring his number here. Jagr is #8 overall, but I would vote against him as well. He has only played about 55% of his career NHL games here. Sometimes it seems like team retire numbers just to do something... like the Phoenix stuff that you mentioned. Number retirement should mean something.
I'm gonna disagree on both. Jagr and Francis won the majority of their hardware here. I'm obviously leaving off their two Cups from 1991-92 and am more focused on individual awards.
2 Byngs, 1 Selke here; 1 Byng and 1 Clancy with the Canes in 2001-02.
Games played: 533 GP, or 30.7% of his 1731 career regular season games. Considering how many games he played, the percentage will probably look a little lower but he was here for 8+ seasons. Francis also had three of his four highest scoring seasons while playing in Pittsburgh.
Awards: 5 Art Ross, 2 Pearsons, 1 Hart and was robbed out of a second Hart in 1999-2000 with the Penguins. Put up 8 of his top 10 scoring seasons with the Penguins. Jags' lone NHL award would be his Art Ross from 2005-06
Games played: 806 out of a possible 1391 games as of the end of the 2012-13 season. That's 57.9% which that number will gradually decline as he plays more games. That number will probably never dip below 50% unless Jagr manages to play 1600+ games. But knowing Jagr I wouldn't put it past him playing until he's 44 or 45.
I would have no issue if either number was retired, but I would understand if neither one was not.
But Bourque? Yeah, the Billy G comparison is quite similar although Guerin won his Cup earlier in his career with the Devils.