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Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby Kovy27 on Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:15 pm

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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby mikey287 on Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:18 pm

MacT was just on saying that he has nothing imminent and hopes to have anything for a while. I think the Oilers have done enough tonight...
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby shafnutz05 on Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:18 pm

@SUNSports Got it on good authority. #Hemsky's locker being cleared out in Philly. Looks like he's been traded. #Oilers
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby Idoit40fans on Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:19 pm

They obviously need size up front, but is that really more important than getting some defense to insulate their goalie? Their goaltending has been bad, but their defense has been equally bad and they just got rid of their lone bright spot on the blue line.
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby mikey287 on Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:20 pm

They do need Simmonds. But I don't think there's much truth to the Hemsky/Simmonds thing...at least not tonight.
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby profpolisci on Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:23 pm

I wish it were the the Pens in this convo and not the Oilers.
IMO, Edmonton wins a Simmonds for Hemsky trade. The latter seems a floater while the former brings it every night.
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby Jamie on Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:37 pm

The are also rumblings that the Flyers are attempting to obtain Jordan Eberle from the Oil.
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby mikey287 on Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:52 pm

Don't believe that the Eberle rumo(u)rs are true at this point.
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby profpolisci on Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:02 am

mikey287 wrote:Don't believe that the Eberle rumo(u)rs are true at this point.


dang r(u)mours
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby shafnutz05 on Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:04 am

I don't think any rumors are true at this very instant, of course
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby Kovy27 on Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:59 am

I heard the Eberle rumors, I can't see Edmonton trading away one of their pieces (Taylor Hall being the other). I can see them shipping off Lazy Ass Nail Yakupov.
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby mikey287 on Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:25 am

From what I know...which isn't a whole lot, of course...but from what I know, neither Eberle nor Yakupov are out on the market. Hemsky, Schultz, maybe Lander are available. Jason LaBarbera will go on waivers after Bryz gets a few BP's down in Oklahoma City (AHL).

So therefore...tomorrow's headline: Oilers trade Eberle, Schultz and Hemsky to Philadelphia for the Schenn's, Simmonds and Coburn. Bryzgalov starts vs. the Flyers and Dubnyk gets waived.

Boy, that's a wordy headline...
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby Froggy on Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:19 am

So this means Edmonton is the favorite to win the cup now, with all these ex flyers, right?
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby Kovy27 on Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:17 am

Froggy wrote:So this means Edmonton is the favorite to win the cup now, with all these ex flyers, right?


No, because LA is going to trade for Giroux.
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby KG on Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:02 am

Not sure why the Flyers would deal Simmonds. Young, still improving power forward that fits their mold.

They should be looking into dealing some of their vets like Hartnell...How bad are they regretting giving M. Streit $5.25MM for the next 4 years?!
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby largegarlic on Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:36 pm

KG wrote:Not sure why the Flyers would deal Simmonds. Young, still improving power forward that fits their mold.

They should be looking into dealing some of their vets like Hartnell...How bad are they regretting giving M. Streit $5.25MM for the next 4 years?!


I agree that it doesn't make sense to trade him, but I'm guessing Holmgren is getting antsy to start making changes to try to salvage the season and might make a rash, ill-considered move (as perhaps the Talbot/Downie trade shows). Not saying that they'll trade Simmonds, but I could definitely see them making a stupid trade just for the sake of changing things up.
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby Kovy27 on Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:59 pm

KG wrote:Not sure why the Flyers would deal Simmonds. Young, still improving power forward that fits their mold.

They should be looking into dealing some of their vets like Hartnell...How bad are they regretting giving M. Streit $5.25MM for the next 4 years?!


Streit was the exact opposite of what that clown team needed.
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby KG on Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:17 pm

Flyers wouldn't mind reversing the JVR/Schenn trade now I'm sure...
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby BurghersAndDogsSports on Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:01 pm

Kovy27 wrote:
KG wrote:Not sure why the Flyers would deal Simmonds. Young, still improving power forward that fits their mold.

They should be looking into dealing some of their vets like Hartnell...How bad are they regretting giving M. Streit $5.25MM for the next 4 years?!


Streit was the exact opposite of what that clown team needed.


Ill be honest, I just cant figure out why the Flyers are "so" bad. I get that Giroux is overrated but his a decent player and the roster up front isnt full of terrible players. Not saying I expected them to compete for home ice, their defense and goalie situation is always bad. I just didnt think this would happen.
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby Great58 on Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:11 pm

largegarlic wrote:
KG wrote:Not sure why the Flyers would deal Simmonds. Young, still improving power forward that fits their mold.

They should be looking into dealing some of their vets like Hartnell...How bad are they regretting giving M. Streit $5.25MM for the next 4 years?!


I agree that it doesn't make sense to trade him, but I'm guessing Holmgren is getting antsy to start making changes to try to salvage the season and might make a rash, ill-considered move (as perhaps the Talbot/Downie trade shows). Not saying that they'll trade Simmonds, but I could definitely see them making a stupid trade just for the sake of changing things up.

In the context of dumping salary, this trade makes sense. Talbot got a contract that was way beyond reasonable. Holmgren hamstrung himself, and is now trying to sell off his mistakes. He's just lucky Pronger hasnt retired and come off LTIR. The Flyers will happily pay the cash to avoid the cap hit.
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby DelPen on Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:24 pm

BurghersAndDogsSports wrote:
Kovy27 wrote:
KG wrote:Not sure why the Flyers would deal Simmonds. Young, still improving power forward that fits their mold.

They should be looking into dealing some of their vets like Hartnell...How bad are they regretting giving M. Streit $5.25MM for the next 4 years?!


Streit was the exact opposite of what that clown team needed.


Ill be honest, I just cant figure out why the Flyers are "so" bad. I get that Giroux is overrated but his a decent player and the roster up front isnt full of terrible players. Not saying I expected them to compete for home ice, their defense and goalie situation is always bad. I just didnt think this would happen.

Their defense and goaltending are worse than garbage. They can't get anything going out of their own end and start chasing. They should have stuck with Lavy unless Holgren knew nothing would get better and decided to at least have a sideshow the meathead fans would still pay to see with Berube embarrassing himself, the organization and the league almost every game.

It's going to take a while to get that mess fixed.
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby Lt. Dish on Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:43 pm

I think the Flyers' goaltending has been their saving grace. It's amazing that they finally have decent to good goaltending and it's the rest of the team that's in the shambles--notably, the D.

I hope the Pens don't sleep on them, though. Don't give them anything toward salvaging that sinking ship.

Giroux finally gets a goal today. This will be updated: http://didgirouxscoreyet.com/
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby Malkamaniac on Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:20 pm

Why can't the Pens be in on Simmonds :(
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby Jim on Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:57 am

Have the Oilers paid all of the hockey media world to just keep saying Hemsky's name in the hope that some GM will just get lulled into trading for him?
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Re: Flyers/Oilers working on deal for Wayne Simmonds

Postby Pitts on Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:26 pm

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 41m
Oilers offered three 2nd round picks for Braydon Coburn at the Draft and couldn't close the deal. Trades in season are much harder to make.

Are they serious??? (Oilers) and are they stupid??? (Flyers)
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