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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby mikey287 on Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:07 pm

meecrofilm wrote:Yes, thanks to mikey. Too bad more didn't do it, but I think some of that might've been people opting out due to not watching a ton of non-Pens hockey this year, which I guess would be better than just throwing votes out based on reputation, stats, etc (now if only the PHWA operated the same way).


Yeah, I wasn't expecting a huge turnout. But I thought it was a little more concentrated "good" so to speak...I agree with the last sentence big time though...

Like I said, I was really pretty impressed with how it turned out, I'm pretty happy with the results. I thought it was a good representation of the league this year for the most part...great job by you guys...thanks for participating!
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby mikey287 on Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:08 pm

MRandall25 wrote:I just realized Mikey labeled Jarmo Kekalainen as "StL" in his doc :pop:


:face: @ me. Good catch...sleep deprivation got me good there...
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby count2infinity on Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:28 pm

my ballot:

- Hart Memorial Trophy - MVP: Top 5
1. Crosby 2. Getzlaf 3. Giroux 4. Varlamov 5. Tyler Seguin

- James Norris Memorial Trophy - Best Defenseman: Top 5
1. Weber 2. Keith 3. Karlsson 4. Pietrangelo 5. Subban

- Georges Vezina Trophy - Best Goalkeeper: Top 3
1. Varlamov 2. Rask 3. Bishop

- Calder Memorial Trophy - Best Rookie: Top 5
1. MacKinnon 2. Palat 3. Lindholm 4. Trouba 5. Maatta

- Frank J Selke Trophy - Best Defensive Forward: Top 5
1. Kopitar 2. Bergeron 3. Toews 4. O'Rielly 5. Craig Adams for the lulz (sorry...ran out of people I think could actually win it)

- Lady Byng Memorial Trophy - Most Gentlemanly Player: Top 5
1. O'Rielly 2. Johanson (Wash) 3. Campbell 4. Jussi Jokinen 5. Kieth

- Jack Adams Trophy - Best Coach: Top 3
1. Bylsma 2. Roy 3. Cooper

- General Manager of the Year - Best GM: Top 3
1. Colorado's GM 2. St. Louis's GM 3. Boston's GM

- All Star Teams
G: Top 3 Rask, Varlamov, Bishop
D: Top 6 Subban, Kieth, Peitrangelo, Suter, Weber, Karlsson
LW: Top 3 Benn, Sharp, Kunitz
C: Top 3 Crosby, Getzlaf, Girous
RW: Top 3 Perry, Kessel, Ovechkin
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby Gaucho on Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:39 pm

I didn't vote, because I don't get to see nearly enough west coast hockey, but my winners would be:

Hart: Crosby
Norris: Suter
Vezina: undecided
Calder: MacKinnon, Trouba, Maatta
Selke: O'Reilly
Byng: Selanne, just because
Adams: Roy/Bylsma
GM: undecided
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby MRandall25 on Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:56 pm

Hart Memorial Trophy:
1. Sidney Crosby, C PIT
2. Ryan Getzlaf, C ANA
3. Claude Giroux, C PHI
4. Patrick Kane, C/W CHI
5. Steven Stamkos, C TBL

Norris:
1. Drew Doughty, D LAK
2. PK Subban, D MTL
3. Erik Karlsson, D OTT
4. Oliver Ekman-Larsson, D PHX
5. Matt Niskanen, D PIT

Vezina Trophy:
1. Tuukka Rask, G BOS
2. Carey Price, G MTL
3. Anton Khudobin, G CAR
4. Marc-Andre Fleury, G PIT
5. Semyon Varlamov, G COL

Calder Memorial:
1. Nate MacKinnon, C COL
2. Tyler Johnson, LW TBL
3. Ondrej Palat, LW TBL
4. Torey Krug, D BOS
5. Olli Maatta, D PIT

Selke:
1. Anze Kopitar, C LAK
2. Patrice Bergeron, C BOS
3. Jonathan Toews, C CHI
4. Ryan O'Reilly, C COL
5. Marian Hossa, RW CHI

Lady Byng:
1. Ryan O'Reilly, C COL
2. Teemu Selanne, RW ANA
3. Pavel Datsyuk, C DET
4. Brandon Sutter, C PIT
5. Patrick Kane, C/W CHI

Jack Adams:
1. Mike Babcock, DET
2. Dan Bylsma, PIT
3. Bruce Boudreau, ANA

Best GM:
1. Jarmo Kekalainen, CBJ
2. Bob Murray, ANA
3. Ray Shero, PIT

All-star Teams:

G
1. Tuukka Rask, BOS
2. Carey Price, MTL
3. Marc-Andre Fleury, PIT

D:
1. PK Subban, MTL
2. Erik Karlsson, OTT
3. Zdeno Chara, BOS

D:
1. Drew Doughty, LAK
2. Matt Niskanen, PIT
3. Oliver Ekman-Larsson, PHX

LW:
1. Patrick Sharp, CHI
2. Chris Kunitz, PIT
3. Jamie Benn, DAL

C:
1. Sidney Crosby, PIT
2. Ryan Getzlaf, ANA
3. Claude Giroux, PHI

RW:
1. Corey Perry, ANA
2. Phil Kessel, TOR
3. Patrick Kane, CHI


I thought I had sent Mikey a PM to move Bylsma down to 3 and Roy up to 2 for Jack Adams, but I either dreamed that I did, or forgot to hit send in a rush. Oh well.

I also misread things and put 5 Vezina candidates. Whatever.
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby Staggy on Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:54 pm

My ballot:

Spoiler:
- Hart Memorial Trophy - MVP: Top 5
1. Sidney Crosby
2. Ryan Getzlaf
3. Claude Giroux
4. Semyon Varlamov
5. Joe Pavelski

- James Norris Memorial Trophy - Best Defenseman: Top 5
1. Drew Doughty
2. Shea Weber
3. Duncan Keith
4. Alex Pietrangelo
5. Ryan McDonagh

- Georges Vezina Trophy - Best Goalkeeper: Top 3
1. Semyon Varlamov
2. Tuuka Rask
3. Carey Price

- Calder Memorial Trophy - Best Rookie: Top 5
1. Nathan MacKinnon
2. Ondrej Palat
3. Tyler Johnson
4. Torey Krug
5. Hampus Lindholm

- Frank J Selke Trophy - Best Defensive Forward: Top 5
1. Patrice Bergeron
2. Anze Kopitar
3. Jonathan Toews
4. Ryan O'Reilly
5. David Backes

- Lady Byng Memorial Trophy - Most Gentlemanly Player: Top 5
1. Ryan O'Reilly
2. Brian Campbell
3. Tyler Seguin
4. Matt Duchene
5. Cam Fowler

- Jack Adams Trophy - Best Coach: Top 3
1. Mike Babcock
2. Patrick Roy
3. Jon Cooper

- General Manager of the Year - Best GM: Top 3
1. Steve Yzerman
2. Jim Nill
3. Peter Chiarelli

- All Star Teams

G: Top 3
1. Semyon Varlamov
2. Tuuka Rask
3. Carey Price

D: Top 3
1. Drew Doughty
2. Duncan Keith
3. Ryan McDonagh

D: Top 3
1. Shea Weber
2. Alex Pietrangelo
3. Ryan Suter

LW: Top 3
1. Jamie Benn
2. Taylor Hall
3. Patrick Marleau

C: Top 3
1. Sidney Crosby
2. Ryan Getzlaf
3. Tyler Seguin

RW: Top 3
1. Corey Perry
2. Phil Kessel
3. Alex Ovechkin
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby dodint on Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:50 pm

Crankshaft wrote:Thanks, Mikey, for doing this. Very interesting. Disappointed only 12 people did it.


I'm aware of my own ignorance, so I abstained. Happy to see Doughty get some praise. I have more faith in you twelve than Milbury, who again today said "Chara is probably the best defender in the league" during the Pens intermission.
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby meecrofilm on Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:26 pm

Mine:

Spoiler:
Hart:

1. Crosby
2. Getzlaf
3. Seguin
4. Giroux
5. Kopitar

Norris:

1. Doughty
2. Weber
3. Suter
4. OEL
5. Keith

Vezina:

1. Rask
2. Varlamov
3. Bishop

Calder:

1. MacKinnon
2. Palat
3. DeKeyser
4. Bjugstad
5. Lindholm

Selke:

1. Bergeron
2. Kopitar
3. Datsyuk
4. Toews
5. Getzlaf

Lady Byng:

1. RoR
2. St. Louis
3. Datsyuk
4. Hossa
5. Marleau

Jack Adams:

1. Julien
2. Roy
3. Jon Cooper

GM:

1. Doug Armstrong
2. Yzerman
3. Tim Murray

All Star Teams:

Goalie:

1. Rask
2. Varlamov
3. Bishop

D (Side 1):

1. Doughty
2. Suter
3. Keith

D (Side 2):

1. Weber
2. OEL
3. Hedman

LW:

1. Benn
2. Hall
3. Pacioretty

C:

1. Crosby
2. Getzlaf
3. Seguin

RW:

1. Perry
2. Kessel
3. Kane
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby Idoit40fans on Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:57 pm

dodint wrote:
Crankshaft wrote:Thanks, Mikey, for doing this. Very interesting. Disappointed only 12 people did it.


I'm aware of my own ignorance, so I abstained. Happy to see Doughty get some praise. I have more faith in you twelve than Milbury, who again today said "Chara is probably the best defender in the league" during the Pens intermission.


Lol I laughed when he said that. And since all of my "Lol"s are legit, I laughed again now.
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby Mr. Colby on Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:07 pm

My Ballot. I didn't follow directions and did 5 for everything, and even accidentally did 6 defenseman. I had been drinking at submission so that may have played a role.

Also I'm assuming Elias Lindholm was a typo and should have been Hampus... I had Hampus above Maatta, I liked what i saw from him more.

Mr. Colby wrote:
Hart:
1. Sidney Crosby
2. Claude Giroux
3. Ryan Getzlaf
4. Semyon Varlamov
5. Anze Kopitar

Norris:
1. Duncan Keith
2. Shea Weber
3. Oliver Ekman-Larsson
4. Drew Doughty
5. Ryan Suter
6. Zdeno Chara

Vezina:
1. Tuukka Rask
2. Semyon Varlamov
3. Ben Bishop
4. Carey Price
5. Sergei Bobrovsky

Calder:
1. Nathan MacKinnon
2. Ondrej Palat
3. Jacob Trouba
4. Tyler Johnson
5. Hampus Lindholm

Selke:
1. Anze Kopitar
2. Patrice Bergeron
3. David Backes
4. Joe Pavelski
5. Jonathan Toews

Lady Byng:
1. Ryan O'Reilly
2. Frans Neilsen
3. Patrick Marleau
4. Teemu Selanne
5. Jason Pominville

Adams:
1. Mike Babcock
2. Patrick Roy
3. Jon Cooper
4. Bruce Boudreau
5. Lindy Ruff

GM:
1. Steve Yzerman
2. Ken Holland
3. Jim Nill
4. Bob Murray
5. Marc Bergevin

All Stars:
G: Rask, Varlamov, Bishop
D: Keith, Weber, Ekman-Larsson
D: Suter, Chara, Doughty
LW: Benn, Sharp, Kunitz
C: Crosby, Getzlaf, Giroux
RW: Perry, Ovechkin, Kessel
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby sniper on Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:55 pm

-Found it interesting that 3 different Hawks got Hart votes and none of them was the teams leading scorer.
-Glad to see Chara didn't get much love. His play was down this year along with his points and the points he did get were inflated from playing forward on the power play.
-Karlsson was higher than I'd of expected given his plus/minus and his team not making the playoffs. Although I don't even consider him a defenseman.
-I'd of thought Mcdonagh would have finished above Subban, Karlsson, and Chara.
-Pleasantly surprised no votes for Berube. He took over a team after an 0-3 start and made the playoffs. I don't find that too impressive.
-I'm not a Toews fan at all. I know everyone else loves him, but I'd of had Crosby ahead of him in the Selke vote. I didn't vote for either though. Crosby was on the ice for 6 more 5 on 5 goals against than Toews in 4 more games played and he doesn't have Hossa playing on his line or Keith and Seabrook behind him and his team was far more beat up. Especially the defense. Crosby played 150 more minutes of even strength time too. Both took on the oppositions best players. Toews reminds me a bit of Mike Richards when he was in Philly when it comes to how people perceive how talented he is.
-I agree with Mikey the GM of the year award is hard to vote on. It's more of a how have they done the last few years award.
-All in all the voting looks pretty darn good.
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby meow on Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:41 am

Spoiler:
- Hart Memorial Trophy - MVP: Top 5
Crosby
Getzlaf
Kane
Giroux
Kessel

- James Norris Memorial Trophy - Best Defenseman: Top 5
Doughty
Keith
Suter
Subban
Pietrangelo

- Georges Vezina Trophy - Best Goalkeeper: Top 3
Bishop
Varlamov
Rask

- Calder Memorial Trophy - Best Rookie: Top 5
MacKinnon
Seth Jones
Lindholm
Maatta
Palat

- Frank J Selke Trophy - Best Defensive Forward: Top 5
Kopitar
Toews
Pavelski
Bergeron
Krejci


- Lady Byng Memorial Trophy - Most Gentlemanly Player: Top 5
O’Reilly
St. Louis
Seguin
Kane
Nielsen

- Jack Adams Trophy - Best Coach: Top 3
Cooper
Roy
Bourdeau

- General Manager of the Year - Best GM: Top 3
Bergevin
Bob Murray
Kekalainen


- All Star Teams
G: Top 3
Rask, Fleury, Lundqvist

D: Top 3
Suter, Weber, Doughty

D: Top 3
Karlson, Subban, Pieterangelo

LW: Top 3
Sharp, Benn, Kunitz

C: Top 3
Crosby, Toews, Getzlaf

RW: Top 3
Kessel, Perry, Kane
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby Froggy on Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:10 am

I'm confused as to why Babcock is above Bylsma in the polling. I guess winning a division with more injuries to better players is somehow less impressive than dealing with a lot of injuries and creeping in to the playoffs as an 8 seed thanks to getting a lot of loser points.

Berube is more deserving than Babcock, imo.
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby Idoit40fans on Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:31 am

Froggy wrote:I'm confused as to why Babcock is above Bylsma in the polling. I guess winning a division with more injuries to better players is somehow less impressive than dealing with a lot of injuries and creeping in to the playoffs as an 8 seed thanks to getting a lot of loser points.

Berube is more deserving than Babcock, imo.

What? The injury part of the argument you used for why bylsma should be above babcock is word for word the reason i would use that babcock would be ahead of bylsma.

No one competes with the wings as far as man games lost to impact players go.
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby sniper on Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:45 am

I think you could go either way with Bylsma and Babcock in the Jack Adams ranking. The RW finished well behind Pittsburgh in the standings, but had injuries to their two best players. I think it was closer as far as star impact than most might, but the arguement could be made either way. Datsyuk and Zetterburg played in 45 games. Letang and Martin played in 37 and 39. They aren't the Pens best players, but they are their two best D-men (in Letangs case should be). Add in Malkin playing in 60 games and Neal at 59. The RW had lots of other injuries too. It was close as far as overall impact goes. Sounds like Babcock will finish ahead of Bylsma in overall voting though.

I don't understand how anyone could think Berube desereved a vote either of those two. I'm pretty sure Babcock and Bylsma would have gladly started the season 0-3 if they could have been guaranteed the health the Flyers enjoyed this season.
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby mikey287 on Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:11 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:
Froggy wrote:I'm confused as to why Babcock is above Bylsma in the polling. I guess winning a division with more injuries to better players is somehow less impressive than dealing with a lot of injuries and creeping in to the playoffs as an 8 seed thanks to getting a lot of loser points.

Berube is more deserving than Babcock, imo.

What? The injury part of the argument you used for why bylsma should be above babcock is word for word the reason i would use that babcock would be ahead of bylsma.

No one competes with the wings as far as man games lost to impact players go.


Yeah, definitely.

You look at it and you lose your #1 center (Datsyuk) for half the year, #1 LW (or strong #2 center, Zetterberg) for half the year, #2 center (Weiss for almost all year - not that it was going great anyhow, but still), terrific third liner/PK and fastest player (Helm) for half the year, best defensive player on the backline (Ericsson) for half the year, and their starting goalie (Howard) missed about a month or so over the course of the season I believe...

I did not vote for Babcock myself. But I can see a fair case for it...
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby meecrofilm on Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:16 pm

Ditto.

One minus for me re: Babcock, was it seemed like a joint-decision between him and Holland to start Nyquist in the AHL at the expense of Dan Cleary.
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby mikey287 on Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:27 pm

Their Dan Cleary is our Craig Adams. Except their Craig Adams plays with Datsyuk. When their Craig Adams breaks his consecutive games streak, they stick Justin Abdelkader with him. Abdelkader is roughly our Tanner Glass with a little better puck skills, but definitely not even Matt Cooke good. The joke is that Justin Abdelkader should win the Selke every year, as he's the only player that can shut down Pavel Datsyuk for an entire season...

So yes, that's the Detroit way though. They don't put boys into the NHL. They put in men. Guys are ripe or overripe when they come in and allows them to jump right into impactfulness within a year - or sooner in the case of Nyquist.
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby meecrofilm on Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:44 pm

Absolutely. Just seems that while injuries forced their hand with Nyquist, they would've been better served had he been up the whole time. Guess you can't argue with how he played, but maybe a few more goals earlier in the year translates to a couple more wins and they don't end up in the 8-spot. This is just entering pure speculation zone now though, so I'll just stop here before the discussion points carry less weight than they already do :P.
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby Mr. Colby on Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:49 pm

I'd love Abdelkader on this pens team
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby Idoit40fans on Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:35 pm

Id rather Babcock be on this Pens team.
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Re: NHL Awards Thread - Results in Post #54

Postby Sam's Drunk Dog on Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:03 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:Id rather Babcock be on this Pens team.

He's probably faster than Adams.
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