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The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoughts?

Postby Lesky on Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:20 am

The Capitals never arrived - missing playoffs, thoughts?

I bet Ovechkin will get the MVP anyway with the retards that vote for it.....

Will Oates be canned?

:fist: SALUTE! Crapitals season ending is always worth celebrating!
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby Beveridge on Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:43 am

Who cares about the Caps.

GMGM should be fired but no idea if he will be.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby columbia on Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:47 am

That franchise is going nowhere, as long as OV is the focal point.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby shoeshine boy on Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:57 am

Lesky wrote:The Capitals never arrived - missing playoffs, thoughts?

I bet Ovechkin will get the MVP anyway with the retards that vote for it.....

Will Oates be canned?

:fist: SALUTE! Crapitals season ending is always worth celebrating!


I get what you're saying about the MVP and those that vote for it but I don't think that the NHL can allow A) a player on a non-playoff team to win the MVP and B) a player with that big a minus. those 2 things combined pretty much prove that he wasn't valuable at all, he was a liability. right now my choice would probably be Rask from the Bruins.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby llipgh2 on Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:39 am

shoeshine boy wrote:
Lesky wrote:The Capitals never arrived - missing playoffs, thoughts?

I bet Ovechkin will get the MVP anyway with the retards that vote for it.....

Will Oates be canned?

:fist: SALUTE! Crapitals season ending is always worth celebrating!


I get what you're saying about the MVP and those that vote for it but I don't think that the NHL can allow A) a player on a non-playoff team to win the MVP and B) a player with that big a minus. those 2 things combined pretty much prove that he wasn't valuable at all, he was a liability. right now my choice would probably be Rask from the Bruins.


Rask won't win MVP, because of the argument there is an award specifically for goalies.

I frankly think that's a stupid mindset. A goalie, even a Vezina candidate, should also be considered for MVP.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby Troy Loney on Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:23 am

Wow, even Penguin fans have talked themselves out of Crosby deserving the Hart trophy.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby the wicked child on Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:25 am

Beveridge wrote:Who cares about the Caps.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby shoeshine boy on Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:13 am

Troy Loney wrote:Wow, even Penguin fans have talked themselves out of Crosby deserving the Hart trophy.


Sid has been great this year and would be deserving of the Hart but Rask is the reason that the Bruins will win the Presidents Trophy. I'd rather Sid won the Conn Smyth. :fist:
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby shmenguin on Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:27 am

the bruins having about a hundred defensemen they can plug into a well oiled machine is the reason they are where they are.

no one else is even in the picture - crosby's winning MVP.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby llipgh2 on Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:55 am

Troy Loney wrote:Wow, even Penguin fans have talked themselves out of Crosby deserving the Hart trophy.


I'm talking candidates for the Hart. Rask deserves to be one, the fact that he's a goalie shouldn't prevent that.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby pensfan1989 on Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:27 am

I think they would have made the playoffs if they had Jagr
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby mikey287 on Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:42 pm

Rask isn't on the radar for Hart. And may not even win the Vezina. He's probably my #2 behind Varly. And I'm positive I'm Tuukka's biggest fan and supporter here...
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby Beveridge on Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:49 pm

mikey287 wrote:Rask isn't on the radar for Hart. And may not even win the Vezina. He's probably my #2 behind Varly. And I'm positive I'm Tuukka's biggest fan and supporter here...


I thought you were Timmy's biggest fan?
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby Idoit40fans on Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:24 pm

Jagr isn't with the Capitals anymore.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby PensFanInDC on Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:24 pm

Idoit40fans wrote:Jagr isn't with the Capitals anymore.


Since when!?
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby sniper on Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:13 pm

shoeshine boy wrote:
Troy Loney wrote:Wow, even Penguin fans have talked themselves out of Crosby deserving the Hart trophy.


Sid has been great this year and would be deserving of the Hart but Rask is the reason that the Bruins will win the Presidents Trophy. I'd rather Sid won the Conn Smyth. :fist:


17 Wins, 3 losses, and 2 OT losses.

2.12 GAA, .923 save percentage and 2 shutouts....


Those are Chad Johnson's stats. The Bruins backup goalie and you think their starter should win the Hart trophy? Rask is a damn good goalie. He makes big saves when their is a breakdown in the Bruins system, but when your backup wins 81% of his starts it's kind of hard to say he's the most valuable player to his team in the league.

Based on McKenzie's poll of 16 head coaches Rask is the front runner for the Vezina. I agree he should be in contention for that and maybe even win it, but he shouldn't be in the discussion for the Hart.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby largegarlic on Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:49 pm

I think the Caps are an interesting case. They had several years of dominant regular seasons followed playoff flame-outs, so clearly they had to make changes. I think many of the changes they made were reasonable too...trying a more defensive approach (the Hunter era), getting rid of an inconsistent/one-dimensional star player (Semin), bringing in grittier guys with track records of playoff performance (Ward and Brouwer). And obviously, none of it worked.

I'm really not sure what I would do to fix their problems.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby Lt. Dish on Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:45 pm

Beveridge wrote:Who cares about the Caps.

GMGM should be fired but no idea if he will be.


I hope he isn't.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby Lt. Dish on Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:47 pm

shoeshine boy wrote:
Troy Loney wrote:Wow, even Penguin fans have talked themselves out of Crosby deserving the Hart trophy.


Sid has been great this year and would be deserving of the Hart but Rask is the reason that the Bruins will win the Presidents Trophy. I'd rather Sid won the Conn Smyth. :fist:


Oh, yeah!

I predict it'll be Fleury, though.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby newarenanow on Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:52 am

I remember back in 2009 before the Pens vs Caps Rd 2 series, Jeremy Roenick was interviewing AO, and he told AO if he had a choice between AO and Sid to build a team around, he'd pick AO.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby Troy Loney on Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:58 am

newarenanow wrote:I remember back in 2009 before the Pens vs Caps Rd 2 series, Jeremy Roenick was interviewing AO, and he told AO if he had a choice between AO and Sid to build a team around, he'd pick AO.



He's angling for a job in the Flyers' front office.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby Stick_licker on Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:26 pm

llipgh2 wrote:
Troy Loney wrote:Wow, even Penguin fans have talked themselves out of Crosby deserving the Hart trophy.


I'm talking candidates for the Hart. Rask deserves to be one, the fact that he's a goalie shouldn't prevent that.


I think with this mindset the Hart and Vezina trophy would go to the same person most years. If you have the best goalie in the league on your team, he's going to be the MVP of the league quite often since goalie is the highest impact position. Basically what they have now is Vezina = MVP goalie, Norris = MVP defenseman, and Hart = MVP forward. The Art Ross is NOT the MVP forward for the same reason the Norris doesn't go to the highest scoring defenseman.

This isn't exactly correct, but overall it's not a bad setup in my opinion.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby Idoit40fans on Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:55 pm

If Rask's backup's numbers weren't virtually identical to his, I'd consider him in the Hart conversation.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby Penspal on Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:27 pm

Caps sucked this year, and I can't say that I was too upset about that. Everyone saw the perfect example of what a skilled goal scorer can do when he doesn't play defense. AND how it affects the team causing them to miss the playoffs.

Looks good on them.
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Re: The Capitals never arrived - missing the playoffs, thoug

Postby Lt. Dish on Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:35 pm

They took a wrong turn somewhere...

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