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NHL = Garage League

Postby nicky on Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:57 pm

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Re: NHL = Garage League

Postby Crankshaft on Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:05 pm

sweet vine, bro
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Re: NHL = Garage League

Postby Skatingpen on Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:45 pm

Look kids Big Ben, parliament
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Postby Tico Rick on Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:16 pm

I don't know whether to cry or wind my watch. Seriously.
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Postby The Snapshot on Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:31 am

That was a holding call.....three different times.

In the St. Louis/Detroit game yesterday, Jackman actually suplexed a Wing in front of the net. It's getting ridiculous. The playoffs are going to be so bad.
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Postby Sam's Drunk Dog on Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:37 am

Game 4 of the Stanley Cup Finals between Pittsburgh and Chicago was on yesterday. We look back fondly on those days, but the amount of interference being let go was ridiculous. Players were hooking each other so badly they were practically water skiing. The difference was the total lack of defense being played and the goaltenders' equipment made then look like skinny skeletons in comparison to today.
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Postby Jim on Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:49 am

The ref didn't see it...

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Postby mikey287 on Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:53 am

Yeah, I recall seeing that live...that was definitely a C&G era flashback...
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Re: NHL = Garage League

Postby no name on Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:30 pm

I am having a hard time watching this crap.
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Postby Avyran on Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:33 pm

I posted that vine in the GDT... here's two more that I found from the same game. Almost every single game has examples of this anymore.
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Re: NHL = Garage League

Postby Realist on Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:08 am

no name wrote:I am having a hard time watching this crap.


I have been a hockey fan since 1985 and a STH since 1987, I can honestly say that I've watched the least amount of hockey this year since I started back then and I have gone to the least amount of games too.

The NHL has lost me as a fan....and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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Postby IMFC on Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:50 am

Realist wrote:
no name wrote:I am having a hard time watching this crap.


I have been a hockey fan since 1985 and a STH since 1987, I can honestly say that I've watched the least amount of hockey this year since I started back then and I have gone to the least amount of games too.

The NHL has lost me as a fan....and I'm sure I'm not the only one.


Almost every online hockey article or facebook post I've seen is littered with the same feelings. Social media might actually be the thing that turns it, because there is no way they can stand that much public pressure on their business. All these millionaires are totally paranoid about being constantly ridiculed in public. It's the only leverage fans have and they should use it. (The only season ticket holders owners care about are corporate, and those people absolutely don't care what they watching because they are not really watching it anyway.)
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Postby Desiato on Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:24 pm

The NHL won't change until there's a major shake-up at the BOG level. It is a classic old boy's club.

IMO, the 'new NHL' only happened because the damage caused by the 04-05 lockout was an existential threat to the league. They know the game the fans want. They just don't care.

I tend not to care either. When I start to care, I take a step back so I can enjoy it for what it is. To do otherwise would result in madness.

Perhaps things will change when Jacobs and Snider are dead. I kind of doubt it though.
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Re: NHL = Garage League

Postby DropEmJayBird on Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:32 pm

In a season ticket group,
last year we had someone leave, this year is the last year for 2 more in the group.
With a new baby at home, I tried to unload tonight's game to everyone I know - nobody bit.

Who wants to pay money to watch the crap in those vine videos? I can see **** tackle defense for free at the local rink watching C league adult hockey.
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Re: NHL = Garage League

Postby no name on Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:15 am

IMFC wrote:
Realist wrote:
no name wrote:I am having a hard time watching this crap.


I have been a hockey fan since 1985 and a STH since 1987, I can honestly say that I've watched the least amount of hockey this year since I started back then and I have gone to the least amount of games too.

The NHL has lost me as a fan....and I'm sure I'm not the only one.


Almost every online hockey article or facebook post I've seen is littered with the same feelings. Social media might actually be the thing that turns it, because there is no way they can stand that much public pressure on their business. All these millionaires are totally paranoid about being constantly ridiculed in public. It's the only leverage fans have and they should use it. (The only season ticket holders owners care about are corporate, and those people absolutely don't care what they watching because they are not really watching it anyway.)



I used to be a die hard NHL fan, i could watch any 2 teams play and enjoy it. I would watch all the recap shows and read the moring articles. Now i only watch the pens and chat on this board. I hope the NHL does something soon, where i used to be watching hockey i now spend that time with the wife and she isn't to keen on talking to me when a re-run of Dr Quinn Medicine woman is on.
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Postby pens2005 on Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:30 am

I'm wondering if it's considered a garage league because the pens are struggling or if it's actually a garage league.

I haven't really decided yet.
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Postby Tico Rick on Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:45 am

pens2005 wrote:I'm wondering if it's considered a garage league because the pens are struggling or if it's actually a garage league.

I haven't really decided yet.

Perhaps this will help:
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Ryan-Wilson/New-Camera-Angle-of-Violent-Shane-Doan-Hit-On-Kris-Letang/177/67663
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Postby Humperdink on Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:18 am

I had been a STH since 2007. Cancelled prior to the beginning of this season.

I have been to a grand total of one game this year - a 4-0 loss to Nashville. I thought I would miss it. I have not. It's just not entertaining.
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Postby offsides on Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:47 pm

So I have a question. If all you guys hate the NHL, why not find something else to do besides posting on a hockey message board? You are allowed to do something else more enjoyable than watch and then complain of a horrible product. I know when I don't like something that I don't HAVE to do, I stop doing it.
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Postby Humperdink on Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:38 pm

offsides wrote:So I have a question. If all you guys hate the NHL, why not find something else to do besides posting on a hockey message board? You are allowed to do something else more enjoyable than watch and then complain of a horrible product. I know when I don't like something that I don't HAVE to do, I stop doing it.


Hard to give up completely on something you have loved for 40+ years. Always holding out hope it will turn around. Hope that helps.
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Postby no name on Mon Apr 06, 2015 9:32 am

Humperdink wrote:
offsides wrote:So I have a question. If all you guys hate the NHL, why not find something else to do besides posting on a hockey message board? You are allowed to do something else more enjoyable than watch and then complain of a horrible product. I know when I don't like something that I don't HAVE to do, I stop doing it.


Hard to give up completely on something you have loved for 40+ years. Always holding out hope it will turn around. Hope that helps.



Hard to leave when you are so emotionally involved in your home team you follow every year, year in year out. SO yeah its hard to leave i still love the Pens, i still love hockey. I am just not a fan of the NHL anymore. I can still follow the team and not spend a single cent on the NHL. OK sure in some way my viewership goes to the them. (someone will throw that in my face.) But not pulling a cent out fo my pocket is the most i can do. If as many fans would do the same, things might change. I used to buy tickets onlne when i had a few dollars sitting around the house, not anymore.

Lets see if the payroll drops again next year if they hide behind the weak canadian dollar or if they realize fans are not spending their money on hockey as much as they used to.
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Re: NHL = Garage League

Postby Realist on Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:47 am

Think of it this way: When I watched on ESPN/ESPN2 in the 90's, I couldn't wait to watch Denis Savard, Pat Lafontaine, Alex Mogilny, Alex Kovalev, Pavel Bure, Phil Housley, Paul Coffey, Mario Lemieux, Wayne Gretzky, Ray Bourque, etc.

Take us to present day...who do you look "forward" to watching on TV or in person? Sid, Ovie maybe? Who else? No one else really. And, in this "dead puck" era, who cares about watching Ovie and Sid if they can't do their thing anyway?
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Re: NHL = Garage League

Postby mikey287 on Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:13 am

I pay money to go see players in person when they come to town and it's a list much longer than just Sid and Ovechkin...and to think that there's more molasses on the rink then there was in the mid-late 90's is a little odd...it was this, plus more stick fouls (well, non-fouls)...
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Re: NHL = Garage League

Postby interstorm on Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:11 pm

nicky wrote:https://vine.co/v/OY77LgQzExw


And some people wonder what's wrong with Sid. He's probably tired being held up by the NHL as the star(savior) of the league while treatment like this (approved by the NHL because it isn't stopped) continues without end.


I'll admit I haven't watched a full game at all this year (didn't go to one but I also don't live near Pittsburgh). I've had a couple games on now and then but usually turn it off because it isn't really exciting to watch (it has raised a question in me to wonder if the game has changed more of if I have). Anyway, I follow the news stories and probably get more information here and the trib than anywhere. I still root for them, I want them to win, but I'd say a Penguins/NHL fan is much less of my identity than it used to be. I'll go to college games, I've taken my kids ice skating and played roller hockey with them. I think it would be natural for me to want to sit and watch an NHL game with them -- just, well, I'm not doing that.

I'll also say, however, that the roots of this go back to the last lockout -- I've never come back as a fan to the level I used to be before that.
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Re: NHL = Garage League

Postby no name on Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:16 am

pens2005 wrote:I'm wondering if it's considered a garage league because the pens are struggling or if it's actually a garage league.

I haven't really decided yet.



Actually a grauge league to me, i used to watch any 2 teams play and could enjoy it. Give me 2 big time teams and i had a bowl of popcorn ready for the opening faceoff. I sat to watch Detroit and NYR play. Thought wow this will be a great game.... No pace, players climbing on each other. Sat to watch Vancouver vs Sharks.... same thing. I have the center ice package, but i won't have it next year guarenteed. Barely use it at all any more.
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