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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby columbia on Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:39 pm

Kraftster wrote:I agree the Pens lack skill guys, including "snipers," but, it's been that way since RS arrived in town. He hasn't really done anything to address yet (particularly in the draft) outside of a guess Sykie and Satan signings. I think we should expect more of the same on that front -- Shero simply likes big bodies with grit. I think getting a guy in the Shero mold as talented as Brown for as cheap as he's signed for is about the best that could ever be expected skill wise (under a Shero-created team).


Excellent post.
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby brwi on Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:49 pm

If the roof falls in and the Kings are yet again outside the playoff picture near the trade deadline, this deal or similar would be a lot more believable than right now. I don't see a team that is starting to achieve like the Kings are suddenly trading their most popular player and team captain away when they are starting to have success after a long rebuilding process.
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby largegarlic on Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:50 pm

[/quote] I agree the Pens lack skill guys, including "snipers," but, it's been that way since RS arrived in town. He hasn't really done anything to address yet (particularly in the draft) outside of a guess Sykie and Satan signings. I think we should expect more of the same on that front -- Shero simply likes big bodies with grit. I think getting a guy in the Shero mold as talented as Brown for as cheap as he's signed for is about the best that could ever be expected skill wise (under a Shero-created team).[/quote]

I was thinking about this philosophy of Shero's as well. It seems that he takes a shot every year at bringing in a "skilled" winger on the cheap. First, it was Ekman, then Sykora, then Satan and maybe Pesonen, and this year it was Borque. He just hasn't found any that were able to stick.
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby Mongoose87 on Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:52 pm

largegarlic wrote:
I agree the Pens lack skill guys, including "snipers," but, it's been that way since RS arrived in town. He hasn't really done anything to address yet (particularly in the draft) outside of a guess Sykie and Satan signings. I think we should expect more of the same on that front -- Shero simply likes big bodies with grit. I think getting a guy in the Shero mold as talented as Brown for as cheap as he's signed for is about the best that could ever be expected skill wise (under a Shero-created team).[/quote]

I was thinking about this philosophy of Shero's as well. It seems that he takes a shot every year at bringing in a "skilled" winger on the cheap. First, it was Ekman, then Sykora, then Satan and maybe Pesonen, and this year it was Borque. He just hasn't found any that were able to stick.[/quote]
Ekman was a Patrick trade, wasn't he?

Anyways, sniper shlipers, I'd rather have power forwards making room for Sid and Geno than some softy with a shot.
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby Corvidae on Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:58 pm

dagny wrote:Dustin Brown is not going anywhere.


All that needs to be said. Up and coming teams don't typically trade their young, cap friendly captains.
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby slappybrown on Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:00 am

why bother?
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby Mtl-PenFan on Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:02 am

Strength down the middle is something I enjoyed watching during the playoffs last season

Trading a 20 year old who looks like he's gonna get another 20 something goals and 50 points with no PP time and Matt Cooke on his wing isn't my idea of a good trade. Trading a puck moving d-man who can skate his way out of trouble isn't either.
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby Mtl-PenFan on Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:21 am

MalkINintheMiddle wrote:Letang is better than Johnson. Until Jack shows other wise, regardless of his BFF status with Crosby.

Brown is overrated here, and it's not like L.A. is in a rush to move him either.
The difference between him and Staal is not actually that large.


For now at least. Like the article said, Brown's as good as he's probably going to get, and Staal looks like he's going to keep getting better.
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby the riddler on Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:48 am

At this point, the Penguins and Kings should just swap teams.
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby Daniel87 on Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:14 am

Add in Malkin for Kopitar and this has the makings of an incredible deal for Mr. Shero. We won't lose the Cup for 15 years.
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby blurryhaze312 on Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:23 am

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Brian-Me ... n/54/24685

An 'Ek' reporter I actually believe since he doesn't blog on rumors.
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby André on Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:50 am

I think the Pens would love to do Brown/Jacksson for Staal/Letang but I don't see the Kings making that move.

The Pens would get more edge, and the third line (whose scoring importance is slightly overrated) would still be very good with Cooke, Talbot and Kennedy. Also, cap wise it'd be a huge move.
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby DocEmrick on Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:20 am

We were doing so well with no Eklund rumors!

(Not knocking on the OP, knocking on Eklund)

A team that's tied for first place in the East planning on trading players. Now that's a a good joke.
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby bh on Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:04 am

MalkINintheMiddle wrote:Letang is better than Johnson. Until Jack shows other wise, regardless of his BFF status with Crosby.

Brown is overrated here, and it's not like L.A. is in a rush to move him either.
The difference between him and Staal is not actually that large.
I agree with everything here. I like watching LA games because they are a fun team to watch, and I don't get all the love for Brown? To me he seems a little more skilled than Kunitz but nothing drastically different. Truthfully, I'd rather have Staal.

Johnson looks great when he plays, but like you I'm still waiting for the results. I think in the end he will be a better player than Letang, but right now, that's not a given.
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby AlexPKeaton on Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:05 am

I like Brown, but I'd rather have Staal/Letang over Brown/Johnson.
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby Jim on Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:39 am

I thought that there was an Eklund ban on!!!
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby penny lane on Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:08 am

What number is Young on defense? ;)

Eklund should focus on his flyers first.
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby SoupOrSam on Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:16 am

I just don't see Shero shaking anything up at this point. I mean we just went through a terrible stretch of injuries and we're still sitting pretty.... I'm a firm believer that many believe in "of it ain't broken don't fix it" and Shero just doesn't seem like the guy who would pull such an extreme trade like that off in the running of one of the Pens best projected seasons ever.... :) Yeah I know it's early.... but....

Oh... the only thing I see Shero shaking up maybe is firing that piece of dung Yeo. :)
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby Kicksave on Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:27 am

Banana Pancakes!
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby SoupOrSam on Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:28 am

Popcorn-flavored Jellybeans!
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby holeinone on Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:45 am

Eklund has been eating too many doggie snacks He is an idiot
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby Gaucho on Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:46 am

Thread already is three pages too long.
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby crayz on Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:13 am

columbia wrote:Obligatory:

Kunitz - Crosby - Guerin
Fedotenko - Malkin - Brown
Cooke - Talbot - Kennedy
Dupuis - Adams - Rupp

Gonchar - Orpik
Eaton - Johnson
McKee - Goligsoki


I think brown would replace kuntiz on line one of that was the case...
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby canaan on Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:16 am

blurryhaze312 wrote:http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Brian-Metzer/California-Dreamin-Is-Just-That-Dreamin/54/24685

An 'Ek' reporter I actually believe since he doesn't blog on rumors.

Metzer is solid.
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Re: LA/Pit Rumor.....

Postby Hawkeynut on Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:11 am

ahhh no. You don't trade when your team has no glaring needs besides a better stroke of luck from the injury fairy.

BLASPHEMOUS!
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