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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby Froggy on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:06 am

I agree w/
Definitely stupid, probably(not definitely) racist.

But I'm more bothered by all the hyperbole and mock outrage about it.
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby columbia on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:09 am

Froggy wrote:I agree w/
Definitely stupid, probably(not definitely) racist.

But I'm more bothered by all the hyperbole and mock outrage about it.


Why wouldn't people be bothered by it?
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby shafnutz05 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:10 am

I thought African-American was a stupid term until I heard "African-Canadian"

Edit: That being said, anyone that tries to claim it wasn't racially motivated is stretching a wee bit IMO. I don't think it was coincidental.
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby doublem on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:12 am

Norton sports are pointing a bounty on the guys head. I think it's up to $500.
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby shafnutz05 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:17 am

doublem wrote:Norton sports are pointing a bounty on the guys head. I think it's up to $500.


lol nice
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby Froggy on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:18 am

columbia wrote:
Froggy wrote:I agree w/
Definitely stupid, probably(not definitely) racist.

But I'm more bothered by all the hyperbole and mock outrage about it.


Why wouldn't people be bothered by it?

I have no problem being bothered with it, I guess. It's more the extent of which people are upset. Like throwing around the words "hate crime"... Stuff like that.
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby shafnutz05 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:20 am

I think part of the more extreme reaction to it is that it occurred in the hockey world. When you are an avid fan of a certain sport, you hate to see things like this that negatively impact how said sport is seen in the eyes of the sports universe. It's well known hockey is a predominantly white sport (while basketball is the opposite). I guess it would be like someone throwing a cracker at a white player in an NBA game?
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby llipgh2 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:22 am

shafnutz05 wrote:I thought African-American was a stupid term until I heard "African-Canadian"



:P
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby columbia on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:22 am

shafnutz05 wrote:I think part of the more extreme reaction to it is that it occurred in the hockey world. When you are an avid fan of a certain sport, you hate to see things like this that negatively impact how said sport is seen in the eyes of the sports universe. It's well known hockey is a predominantly white sport (while basketball is the opposite). I guess it would be like someone throwing a cracker at a white player in an NBA game?


It would be similarly uncool.
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby doublem on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:23 am

It's a disgusting act, how couldn't you be bothered? This isn't 1950 MLB. Plus, there is a lot of stuff black NHL's have to deal with that are very rarely talked about. I think BGL talked about it once.
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby Froggy on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:23 am

It's probably just a semantics thing, but I have a hard time thinking about a lynching and throwing a piece of fruit in the same light, regardless of the intentions behind the fruit.
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby columbia on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:24 am

shafnutz05 wrote:I thought African-American was a stupid term until I heard "African-Canadian"

Edit: That being said, anyone that tries to claim it wasn't racially motivated is stretching a wee bit IMO. I don't think it was coincidental.


There are people that still refer to to themselves as Italian-Americans, etc.
(And why not.....It's an acknowledgment of their heritage.)
What exactly are you supposed to say, as a descendent of slaves?
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby shafnutz05 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:24 am

llipgh2 wrote:
shafnutz05 wrote:I thought African-American was a stupid term until I heard "African-Canadian"



:P


This has nothing to do with your FB post, of course :lol:
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby shafnutz05 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:25 am

columbia wrote:
shafnutz05 wrote:I thought African-American was a stupid term until I heard "African-Canadian"

Edit: That being said, anyone that tries to claim it wasn't racially motivated is stretching a wee bit IMO. I don't think it was coincidental.


There are people that still refer to to themselves as Italian-Americans, etc.
(And why not.....It's an acknowledgment of their heritage.)
What exactly are you supposed to say, as a descendent of slaves?


I won't get into this debate in NPR, just that I think it's silly.
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby columbia on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:29 am

shafnutz05 wrote:
columbia wrote:
shafnutz05 wrote:I thought African-American was a stupid term until I heard "African-Canadian"

Edit: That being said, anyone that tries to claim it wasn't racially motivated is stretching a wee bit IMO. I don't think it was coincidental.


There are people that still refer to to themselves as Italian-Americans, etc.
(And why not.....It's an acknowledgment of their heritage.)
What exactly are you supposed to say, as a descendent of slaves?


I won't get into this debate in NPR, just that I think it's silly.


You're the one who brought it up. :pop:
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby shafnutz05 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:38 am

columbia wrote:You're the one who brought it up. :pop:


What I state on this forum is not open to debate or disagreement. It just is.
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby llipgh2 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:40 am

This article adds a little clarity to the incident. Key points:

1. It was a banana peel, not a banana. And more importantly...

2. 2 were thrown. One when Simmonds scored in the third, the second when he was taking his shot in the shoot out.

3. Apparently the same person threw both peels. But security was unable to find the culprit (which makes me think no one pointed the culprit out when asked. Which is creepy as well.)

You can argue all you want about 1 peel being a joke/racist comment. 2 peels lends weight to the second argument.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/20110922_Fan_tosses_banana_peel_at_Flyers_Simmonds.html
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby shafnutz05 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:43 am

Maybe he was just a nostalgic fan of the old Mario Kart games?
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby AlexPKeaton on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:50 am

Canadians. They like to pretend they are some superior european country and then this. America's hat indeed.
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby doublem on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:56 am

Ugh. Like this stuff could never happen anywhere else.
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby Physical_Graffiti on Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:58 am

skeeter14 wrote:can someone please explain to me the the waffle incident. More importantly why specifically waffles.

http://thepuckdoctors.com/2010/12/disgr ... es-on-ice/

“They need to wake up and eat some breakfast, I’m just trying to help them out with a balanced diet.”
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby llipgh2 on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:08 pm

AlexPKeaton wrote:Canadians. They like to pretend they are some superior european country and then this. America's hat indeed.


How do you know it wasn't a Wings fan from Detroit? :pop:
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby shmenguin on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:19 pm

Froggy wrote:regardless of the intentions behind the fruit.


i like that sentence fragment

i guess it's a "crime" to throw stuff on the ice. and if the thing you throw is based on racism, there's "hate" involved. but i still wouldn't be throwing around the phrase, "hate crime". but i can't fault people for reacting in an extreme manor considering the sensitivity of the subject.
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby SolidSnake on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:20 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:Maybe he was just a nostalgic fan of the old Mario Kart games?

He should of used the homing shell then
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Re: Banana Thrown at Wayne Simmonds

Postby SolidSnake on Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:21 pm

JS© wrote:Image

:lol: :fist:
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