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Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby tfrizz on Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:37 am

http://www.nhl.com/ice/recap.htm?id=2011021178

Closing in on his 40th birthday and still tearing it up. Congrats Ray!
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby bhaw on Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:20 pm

Amazing what he's doing at his age. Probably has 2 more years in him, although, I can see it shutting down like Slava Kozlov. One year putting up over 70 points, totally ineffective the next.

Congrats to him through.
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby Physical_Graffiti on Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:30 pm

Congrats, Ray.

Does Ray make the HHoF?
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby the wicked child on Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:57 pm

Glad that jagoff went out west where he can' hurt us as often. :pop:
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby mikey287 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:23 pm

Physical_Graffiti wrote:Congrats, Ray.

Does Ray make the HHoF?


Not even close.

Congrats to the Wizard though, terrific career to date.
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby Physical_Graffiti on Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:11 pm

mikey287 wrote:
Physical_Graffiti wrote:Congrats, Ray.

Does Ray make the HHoF?


Not even close.

Congrats to the Wizard though, terrific career to date.

He's scored more points than 160 members of the HHoF.
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby mikey287 on Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:36 pm

Physical_Graffiti wrote:
mikey287 wrote:
Physical_Graffiti wrote:Congrats, Ray.

Does Ray make the HHoF?


Not even close.

Congrats to the Wizard though, terrific career to date.

He's scored more points than 160 members of the HHoF.


I'll assume that's not a serious response...in fact, I know it's not a serious response...
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby Physical_Graffiti on Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:51 pm

mikey287 wrote:
Physical_Graffiti wrote:
mikey287 wrote:
Physical_Graffiti wrote:Congrats, Ray.

Does Ray make the HHoF?


Not even close.

Congrats to the Wizard though, terrific career to date.

He's scored more points than 160 members of the HHoF.


I'll assume that's not a serious response...in fact, I know it's not a serious response...

172, to be more accurate 8-)
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby Streaks House on Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:08 am

Really incredible stuff by Whitney. Was left for dead in '97 by the Sharks (I think he's the only remaining player from the Sharks inaugural season), couldn't latch on the following year in Edmonton, only to wash up the following year with Florida. It's pretty amazing what he's done in terms of production on the wrong side of age 30, more than half of his 1000 points during that period.
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby JS© on Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:25 am

Streaks House wrote:Really incredible stuff by Whitney. Was left for dead in '97 by the Sharks (I think he's the only remaining player from the Sharks inaugural season), couldn't latch on the following year in Edmonton, only to wash up the following year with Florida. It's pretty amazing what he's done in terms of production on the wrong side of age 30, more than half of his 1000 points during that period.


correct. He's the only player left from that inaugural team.

The next closest player who was still playing any level of professional hockey was Ed Courtenay. He's been out of the NHL since 91-92 but was still playing in either 2009 or 2010 in England.
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby cheesesteakwithegg on Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:52 am

When I saw that he hit 1,000 points, I thought it was an April Fools joke. The guy fly's totally under the radar, and I never thought of him as an 1,000 point guy. Congrats to him though, well deserved.
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby MRandall25 on Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:12 am

Physical_Graffiti wrote:
mikey287 wrote:
Physical_Graffiti wrote:
mikey287 wrote:
Physical_Graffiti wrote:Congrats, Ray.

Does Ray make the HHoF?


Not even close.

Congrats to the Wizard though, terrific career to date.

He's scored more points than 160 members of the HHoF.


I'll assume that's not a serious response...in fact, I know it's not a serious response...

172, to be more accurate 8-)


Kerry Collins is #10 in passing yards in NFL history. Do you think he'll get into the Hall?

In both cases, I'd say it's more the longevity of their careers rather than them being that much better than the competition.
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby Physical_Graffiti on Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:38 pm

MRandall25 wrote:Kerry Collins is #10 in passing yards in NFL history. Do you think he'll get into the Hall?

In both cases, I'd say it's more the longevity of their careers rather than them being that much better than the competition.

As pointed out earlier, he scored more than half of those points after the age of 30.

So longevity of a person's career, while putting up good numbers (as pointed out before, numbers achieved by only 78 others) counts for nothing?
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby Rylan on Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:41 pm

Lets put everyone into the hall of fame yea yay.
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby Physical_Graffiti on Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:44 pm

Rylan wrote:Lets put everyone into the hall of fame yea yay.

Everyone who scores 1,000 points? Sure!
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby Rylan on Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:48 pm

Nope. Everyone who has played a game in the NHL. Skudra and Caron will get their much delayed and needed reward.

(Just realized there has yet to be a Penguins goalie I didn't like)
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby Physical_Graffiti on Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:51 pm

Rylan wrote:Nope. Everyone who has played a game in the NHL. Skudra and Caron will get their much delayed and needed reward.

(Just realized there has yet to be a Penguins goalie I didn't like)

I hate Tommy B.

Andy Chiodo and Ron Tugnutt ftw 8-) .
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby Rylan on Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:55 pm

Physical_Graffiti wrote:
Rylan wrote:Nope. Everyone who has played a game in the NHL. Skudra and Caron will get their much delayed and needed reward.

(Just realized there has yet to be a Penguins goalie I didn't like)

I hate Tommy B.

Andy Chiodo and Ron Tugnutt ftw 8-) .


Chiodo Dragon rocked the white mask splendidly.
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby MRandall25 on Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:33 pm

Physical_Graffiti wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:Kerry Collins is #10 in passing yards in NFL history. Do you think he'll get into the Hall?

In both cases, I'd say it's more the longevity of their careers rather than them being that much better than the competition.

As pointed out earlier, he scored more than half of those points after the age of 30.

So longevity of a person's career, while putting up good numbers (as pointed out before, numbers achieved by only 78 others) counts for nothing?


Would it count for Kerry Collins? Yes or no?

The Hall is for the greats. Most of it is hype, best the rest is play. Whitney, while he has numbers, doesn't have the hype and the stardom these others guys have. Same with Kerry Collins. Look at the names surrounding him. Pretty much all of them are in the HOF. Doesn't mean Collins will be.

I honestly have no idea what they base their selections on, but Ray Whitney just screams "NHL's Kerry Collins" to me. Never really had the big numbers and recognition over the seasons, compared to other players in the Hall. Just played long enough to amass a career number close to those guys.
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby Staggy on Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:10 pm

Jason Arnott's getting pretty close to 1,000 points as well and I doubt anyone would call him a Hall of Famer.
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby thepittman on Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:15 pm

Staggy wrote:Jason Arnott's getting pretty close to 1,000 points as well and I doubt anyone would call him a Hall of Famer.


Why not?
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby MRandall25 on Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:28 pm

thepittman wrote:
Staggy wrote:Jason Arnott's getting pretty close to 1,000 points as well and I doubt anyone would call him a Hall of Famer.


Why not?


I, personally, would say the same reasons I said Whitney shouldn't. He never put up the huge numbers and never really had the hype other guys in the Hall had.

If anything, I would just say Whitney and Arnott are guys who were great role players, but they were never the stars on their teams, or never got the recognition as being "stars" in the league (I know that term is subjective, but when you discuss the Top X players from any year, I don't think either of them come in the Top 20 or 30)

At least, that's how I see them.
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby thepittman on Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:40 pm

MRandall25 wrote:
thepittman wrote:
Staggy wrote:Jason Arnott's getting pretty close to 1,000 points as well and I doubt anyone would call him a Hall of Famer.


Why not?


I, personally, would say the same reasons I said Whitney shouldn't. He never put up the huge numbers and never really had the hype other guys in the Hall had.

If anything, I would just say Whitney and Arnott are guys who were great role players, but they were never the stars on their teams, or never got the recognition as being "stars" in the league (I know that term is subjective, but when you discuss the Top X players from any year, I don't think either of them come in the Top 20 or 30)

At least, that's how I see them.


I don't know man, I've always considered Arnott a high level player. He has had a long successful career and deserve recognition IMO.
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby MRandall25 on Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:43 pm

thepittman wrote:
MRandall25 wrote:
thepittman wrote:
Staggy wrote:Jason Arnott's getting pretty close to 1,000 points as well and I doubt anyone would call him a Hall of Famer.


Why not?


I, personally, would say the same reasons I said Whitney shouldn't. He never put up the huge numbers and never really had the hype other guys in the Hall had.

If anything, I would just say Whitney and Arnott are guys who were great role players, but they were never the stars on their teams, or never got the recognition as being "stars" in the league (I know that term is subjective, but when you discuss the Top X players from any year, I don't think either of them come in the Top 20 or 30)

At least, that's how I see them.


I don't know man, I've always considered Arnott a high level player. He has had a long successful career and deserve recognition IMO.


I don't disagree that he plays at a high level, it's just that he plays largely under the radar.
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Re: Ray Whitney Records 1000th Point!

Postby Staggy on Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:59 pm

He's had a great career but I don't think everyone that had a great career should be in the Hall. In 19 seasons, he's never been a point per game player. He's a consistent 55-65 point player, topping out at 76. In my opinion that's just not HHoF worthy.
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