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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby pens2005 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:14 pm

People aren't allowed to say not signing talbot was a mistake when they at first laughed at "how much" Philly signed him for.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby penny lane on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:14 pm

GDR wrote:Sorta serious question - do the Penguins explore trading Crosby? big contract up after next year, injury history, team rolling along w/o him, he comes back and something changes.



Sid and Flower for carey price.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby TheHammer24 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:14 pm

Gaucho wrote:
TheHammer24 wrote:FYI - to the blow it up people. Most of this team is signed through next year.


Laugh all you want, but overall it is a pretty awesome team.

Not laughing at all - I think we have an awesome team and i would switch with anyone. No way no how. I think RS is superb. It goes to your point earlier "I feel like we lost more than three games." I disagree. We've only lost a false conception we had in the first place - that a healthy penguins team would automatically win a stanely cup. It's not tue. It takes so much more including luck. Look at Vancouver. That team has been awesome the past five years and they have not won one cup.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby shafnutz05 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:14 pm

FWIW, Malkin seemed to be one of the few that didn't get involved in the thuggery, didn't he?
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby shafnutz05 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:14 pm

Man double posting like crazy, sorry.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby penny lane on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:15 pm

pens2005 wrote:People aren't allowed to say not signing talbot was a mistake when they at first laughed at "how much" Philly signed him for.


based on his 2010 & 2011 performance, no.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby shmenguin on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:15 pm

they might trade staal at some point if they think they won't be able to re-sign him...which could be a thing. it was weird to see him back off after sid came back. if one wanted to look deep into things, one may think he doesn't like being 3rd banana. so the greener pastures of the UFA market might speak to him.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby pens2005 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:16 pm

penny lane wrote:
pens2005 wrote:People aren't allowed to say not signing talbot was a mistake when they at first laughed at "how much" Philly signed him for.


based on his 2010 & 2011 performance, no.


Wait, are you agreeing with me?
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby stinky on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:16 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:FWIW, Malkin seemed to be one of the few that didn't get involved in the thuggery, didn't he?


Thats because he is a soff Euro :wink:
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby HockeyDaddy on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:17 pm

GDR wrote:Sorta serious question - do the Penguins explore trading Crosby? big contract up after next year, injury history, team rolling along w/o him, he comes back and something changes.

No.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby PhantomJB93 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:17 pm

Doubt Cooke is gone, he redeemed himself this year. As for Staal, Asham, Johnson, Sullivan, and literally the entire defense save for Letang, any of them could be gone. Fleury should be on a short leash as well.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby Rocco on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:17 pm

pens2005 wrote:People aren't allowed to say not signing talbot was a mistake when they at first laughed at "how much" Philly signed him for.


Given that Max took the 2009-11 regular seasons off and showed up just for the 2009 playoffs, I had no problem with the Pens letting him walk and still don't.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby shmenguin on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:17 pm

well at least they certainly proved that sid and geno arent their dirtiest players. take that, berube
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby TheHammer24 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:17 pm

pens2005 wrote:People aren't allowed to say not signing talbot was a mistake when they at first laughed at "how much" Philly signed him for.

Where would Talbot fit on this team? With Staal and Cooke? I don't see how that makes us much better given his body of work, and I don't see how hindsight arm chair GMs can nit pick like this.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby pens2005 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:18 pm

Rocco wrote:
pens2005 wrote:People aren't allowed to say not signing talbot was a mistake when they at first laughed at "how much" Philly signed him for.


I agree. I think you missed my point.

Given that Max took the 2009-11 regular seasons off and showed up just for the 2009 playoffs, I had no problem with the Pens letting him walk and still don't.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby shmenguin on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:19 pm

ugh...talbot doesn't play like that here. he impressed us, then he quit. he's impressing philly now and then he'll quit later.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby penny lane on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:19 pm

http://www.nhlpa.com/Players/26073/

max~ regular season:2 goals in 2010, 8 goals in 2011. play-off , 2010- 2 , 2011 ~ 1.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby pens2005 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:20 pm

TheHammer24 wrote:
pens2005 wrote:People aren't allowed to say not signing talbot was a mistake when they at first laughed at "how much" Philly signed him for.

Where would Talbot fit on this team? With Staal and Cooke? I don't see how that makes us much better given his body of work, and I don't see how hindsight arm chair GMs can nit pick like this.


You missed my point too. I am hearing many posters complain that we should have signed talbot when there was no way at that time that we should have.

People are being hypocritical if they thought it was umb to re-sign him then but wish we would have signed him now.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby TheHammer24 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:20 pm

PhantomJB93 wrote:Doubt Cooke is gone, he redeemed himself this year. As for Staal, Asham, Johnson, Sullivan, and literally the entire defense save for Letang, any of them could be gone. Fleury should be on a short leash as well.

OMG. U guys are just suggesting change for the sake of change. Please draw line combos where this team is better by getting rid of those players. The roster is unmatched. It's not the composition of the roster's fault we lost.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby TheHammer24 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:21 pm

I agree with you Pens2005. I was leap frogging off your point.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby pens2005 on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:22 pm

TheHammer24 wrote:I agree with you Pens2005. I was leap frogging off your point.


Ok as I reread that I sorta thought that.

Sorry!
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby pfim on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:23 pm

I don't think Talbot is the difference between giving up 20 goals and some other acceptable number. He was surplus to requirements in the summer and still would be if he was re-signed.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby columbia on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:23 pm

Mears is doubling-down to defend the coaching staff.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby lemieuxReturns on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:25 pm

pens2005 wrote:People aren't allowed to say not signing talbot was a mistake when they at first laughed at "how much" Philly signed him for.


It was never a bad deal. It is pretty obvious now also that it never will be.
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Re: Penguins v. Flyers (Game 3) GDT

Postby pfim on Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:26 pm

columbia wrote:Mears is doubling-down to defend the coaching staff.


I don't get that. Most of the changes they've made in the series have made things worse.
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