Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby ysthomas on Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:53 pm

Sega CD-that would be more like Zubov for K. Hatcher.
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby spiritfan on Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:00 pm

So some team below cap floor will trade for Timmy Thomas and Timmy does not play next year and team does not have to pay him but team will be above cap floor... what a garage league
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby Gaucho on Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:01 pm

ysthomas wrote:Sega CD-that would be more like Zubov for K. Hatcher.


:cry:
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby joker10277 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:01 pm

Boy this thread went south in a hurry.

I'm not OK with them keeping staal even if they win the cup (which won't happen with the way they play defense), more likely they get bounced early again. Staal will be a distraction all year, you can't keep him, everyday it will be "so, Jordan have you changed your mind about signing with the pens yet?", that just won't work. I don't even think RS is arrogant enough to think he can keep him around.
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby offsides on Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:05 pm

I have a really nice authentic Staal home jersey (from River City Sports) I'm looking to sell. Any takers?
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby mikey287 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:09 pm

offsides wrote:I have a really nice authentic Staal home jersey (from River City Sports) I'm looking to sell. Any takers?


I would, but I only have CCM/Koho jerseys...hate the RBK stuff.
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby Rylan on Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:11 pm

I will give you a hotdog (ketchup and mustard), a pizza (extra cheese), and a soft drink (12 pack from this year's manufactured date) for the jersey.
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby steelhammer on Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:17 pm

ysthomas wrote:Sega CD-that would be more like Zubov for K. Hatcher.


That actually sounds like a 32X job. For 3-player trades I fire up the Jaguar. DO THE MATH!
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby offsides on Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:28 pm

Rylan wrote:I will give you a hotdog (ketchup and mustard), a pizza (extra cheese), and a soft drink (12 pack from this year's manufactured date) for the jersey.


I was looking more for a grinder and a 30 pack of Miller High Life (the champagne of bottled beer).
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby Rylan on Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:34 pm

We will consider these changes and return a counter offer sometime in the future.
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby canaan on Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:36 pm

$40 PayPal right meow if you're serious. Should more than cover a case and a grinder :pop:
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby Rylan on Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:40 pm

:shock: canaan goes for the kill.
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby NJ5934 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:41 pm

Fire0nice228 wrote:
It'sagreatdayforhockey! wrote:
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mikey287 wrote:Hypothetical: Jordan Staal stays all year and produces in line with his career projections. We win the Cup with him. And he walks for nothing. U still mad, bro(s)?


I don't really want a lame duck on this team. It's a marathon of a season and it's unlikely the Pens would win a cup this year even with Staal. It's also a possibility that we ride the season out with Staal, go out early in the playoffs, lose him for nothing and Shero finds himself in this position with Geno this time next year.

I'm Not trying to be dramatic, just saying its the GM's job to build for the future, not just the upcoming season. It's unfortunate that we are now in this position because Staal was a fan favorite and a favorite of mine, but he has decided (or I think he has) to move on and done so in a way that has left the Pens at a disadvantage.



It's not like they are getting nothing. They are getting a 1st, Tangradi and Strait or something similar plus a better shot at the cup plus a worse shot at the cup for one team plus potentially a 1st or 2nd for his negotiating rights after the season.


A first or second for his negotiating rights after the season? I highly doubt.. Hamhuis as a highly sought afterdefenseman a few years ago only got a third, and it was highly surmised that he wanted to go to Vancouver, much ala Staal/Carolina.


I see what your saying but I wouldn't generalize and compare tangradi and strait to any potential return we could get for Staal. If your are referring to the early Carolina rumors I can tell you sutter and Faulk are players that would/could make an impact immediately.

I don't like the idea of beginning the season with a player that has already decided to leave, it's bad juju. Furthermore, when was the last time a team threw all of their assets into THAT year and were successful. We had a healthy team this year and we all saw what happened. This is about asset management. Staal is an asset and if he has decided to play elsewhere you have to get everything you can for him. Chances are the Penguins will not be drafting in the top 3 again anytime soon and as long as Sid, Geno and company are signed we are not going to be in the position to outbid anyone for high end free agents.
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby opie22002 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:06 pm

Dreger says Shero is listening to offers.
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby KG on Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:06 pm

Wouldn't be shocked to see Staal dealt tonight....personal opinion.

A lot of buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby NJ5934 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:09 pm

Rossi is tweeting Shero is nowhere to be found, lol
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby Sarcastic on Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:10 pm

NJ5934 wrote:Rossi is tweeting Shero is nowhere to be found, lol


He's mingling. :P
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby Kovy27 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:10 pm

NJ5934 wrote:Rossi is tweeting Shero is nowhere to be found, lol



Rossi is still looking for his scarf.
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby Sarcastic on Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:12 pm

I'm sorry, but there is something wrong with the system if Edmonton gets to pick #1 three years in a row.
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby NJ5934 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:13 pm

Apparently Shero is serving horderves, it's the responsibility of the host GM
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby Sarcastic on Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:16 pm

lol
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby Sarcastic on Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:18 pm

I think, and this is just my opinion, but a team that gets the #1 one year shouldn't be allowed to pick in the top 3 the following year.
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby spiritfan on Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:25 pm

Shero traded himself?
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby Rocco on Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:09 pm

Well I think the situation is resolved now.
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Re: Jordan Staal - perhaps the big story for this offseason

Postby marek on Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:16 pm

Bye bye Jordan have fun losing!!! Lol
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