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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby Kovy27 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:35 pm

Daniel87 wrote:Roughly how much will Parise and Suter demand on the open market?


7-7.5 and 5-6
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby KennyTheKangaroo on Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:35 pm

Welp, see ya later
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby Durbano on Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:43 pm

Finally, enough cap room to trade for Hossa :pop:
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby Tico Rick on Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:43 pm

Would Suter be jealous playing on a team with a guy who had an extra "t" in his name?
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby pfim on Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:46 pm

Tico Rick wrote:Would Suter be jealous playing on a team with a guy who had an extra "t" in his name?


Shero could trade a defenseman to get the extra "t."
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby BCG51585 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:48 pm

Durbano wrote:Finally, enough cap room to trade for Hossa :pop:


This.
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby PensOnDVD on Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:50 pm

If that $14 mil in cap room is accurate they can sign Parise and pretty much cover the slight increases in Sid and Malkin's next contract.

Now if Shero can get someone to take Martin? He has pictures of NHL GMs and sheep.
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby no name on Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:51 pm

Pee-air also said Crosby and ZP where tight. Close friends. Not sure how true but he did say it.

Hope this works out for the pens, its scary going into free agency when you are not sure how this can all play out.

A team would be easily swayed to try and sign either Sutter or ZP for close to 8. If Staal is 6 million i got to think ZP can command 8.

If Martin is 5 million, Sutter is 100 billion dollars.
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby pens2005 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:52 pm

I'd rather go after Weber than Suter to be honest.
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby Liverlips on Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:55 pm

pens2005 wrote:I'd rather go after Weber than Suter to be honest.


Surely Weber is Nashville's highest priority? Does he want out?
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby JoseCuervo on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:01 am

FLPensFan wrote:Paul Martin to Nashville for the negotiating rights to Ryan Suter. Clears 5 mil off the books, lets Pens go up to 5-6mil for Suter, and still have room for Parise since we cleared 4 mil a year off the books from Michalek. Pens defense:

Letang
Suter
Orpik
Niskanen
Depres
Engelland
Bortuzzo

That is a damn solid top 4, and the bottom 3 is not horrible.


Having niskanen in the projected top 4 and calling them solid is pretty ridiculous. that looks like a team with a solid top pair (tang-suter) and nothing behind them.
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby Streaks House on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:04 am

Liverlips wrote:
pens2005 wrote:I'd rather go after Weber than Suter to be honest.


Surely Weber is Nashville's highest priority? Does he want out?


Weber is an RFA...not going anywhere.
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby Pavel Bure on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:04 am

pens2005 wrote:I'd rather go after Weber than Suter to be honest.

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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby lemieuxReturns on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:05 am

Kovy27 wrote:
Daniel87 wrote:Roughly how much will Parise and Suter demand on the open market?


7-7.5 and 5-6


I think that is low.

Praise could be 9 million a year.
Suter could be 8 million a year.
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby Cosmo_kramer on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:09 am

FLPensFan wrote:Paul Martin to Nashville for the negotiating rights to Ryan Suter. Clears 5 mil off the books, lets Pens go up to 5-6mil for Suter, and still have room for Parise since we cleared 4 mil a year off the books from Michalek. Pens defense:

Letang
Suter
Orpik
Niskanen
Depres
Engelland
Bortuzzo

That is a damn solid top 4, and the bottom 3 is not horrible.


I think Shero holds onto Martin to see what happens July 2nd. If he gets what he wants and needs to clear space, he can dump Martin. If he doesn't, he can package Martin with a prospect and Kennedy and shore up the Defense.
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby SoupOrSam on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:10 am

lemieuxReturns wrote:
Kovy27 wrote:
Daniel87 wrote:Roughly how much will Parise and Suter demand on the open market?


7-7.5 and 5-6


I think that is low.

Praise could be 9 million a year.
Suter could be 8 million a year.


Wanted to log in just to say that 9 and 8? There isn't enough LSD to think a GM would ever pay close to that.
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby Sam's Drunk Dog on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:11 am

Karlsson got 6.5. Suter gets less than that.
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby HomerPenguin on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:12 am

I think Parise could easily get $18-25 million per year, and Suter, probably not that much, maybe $14 million per.
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby FLPensFan on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:13 am

PensOnDVD wrote:If that $14 mil in cap room is accurate they can sign Parise and pretty much cover the slight increases in Sid and Malkin's next contract.

Now if Shero can get someone to take Martin? He has pictures of NHL GMs and sheep.


I will keep singing my wish.....trade Paul Martin to Nashville for the negotiating rights to Suter. If Suter is demanding to test the market (ie, not going to resign with Nashville before July 1st), give them Martin as compensation and hope Suter sees how awesome the Pens are and will sign here. It's not like Martin is a scrub. It's not like we'd be offering Ben Lovejoy here. Martin is a decent defenseman who had a bad year, and is a bit overpaid. Better to get some asset for Suter than lose him outright. Nashville has tons of cap space to do it. Hell, if I knew for certain that Suter would definitely sign, I'd throw in a 3rd or 4th round pick if needed to complete the trade.
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby Kraftster on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:17 am

Sam's Drunk Dog wrote:Karlsson got 6.5. Suter gets less than that.


Seems very doubtful that on the open market Suter somehow does not get offers at or above $6.5 per. Karlsson was an RFA, so there is a difference there. But even that aside, Suter @ $5M will never happen as some seem to be thinking. He was reported as wanting $7 per during this past season. Wanting and getting are two different things, but, I think I'd prefer Suter to Weber and he got $7+ from the arbitrator.
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby lemieuxReturns on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:17 am

SoupOrSam wrote:
lemieuxReturns wrote:
Kovy27 wrote:
Daniel87 wrote:Roughly how much will Parise and Suter demand on the open market?


7-7.5 and 5-6


I think that is low.

Praise could be 9 million a year.
Suter could be 8 million a year.


Wanted to log in just to say that 9 and 8? There isn't enough LSD to think a GM would ever pay close to that.


Might be right. It just seems like the rangers or flyers always end up making a crazy offer.
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby Kraftster on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:18 am

Martin for Suter's rights without having a deal in place is incredibly stupid.
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby Froggy on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:20 am

Kraftster wrote:Martin for Suter's rights without having a deal in place is incredibly stupid.

yep.

i don't think martin gets moved at all, now.
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby Ossa on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:27 am

If you're going to do a salary dump then atleast get something good in return. Heck, I'd take a 2nd round pick pick straight up for Z over this deal.
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Re: Michalek to Coyotes for 3rd round pick, prospect

Postby It'sagreatdayforhockey! on Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:37 am

pens2005 wrote:I'd rather go after Weber than Suter to be honest.


I'd rather go after Chara.
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