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ville5 wrote:Allen and Gill would be near top of list other than Suter.
Bioshock wrote:ville5 wrote:Allen and Gill would be near top of list other than Suter.
For the way the game is going, i second this.
DelPen wrote:While not likely it's not improbable that we can throw Morrow out there and he has a Calder Trophy season.
tfrizz wrote:He's probably still a year or two away, but everyone seems to be forgetting the guy who just may be the best defenseman, defensively, in the system: Scott Harrington
IMO, he could have the biggest impact of any defensive prospect right now.
no name wrote:The guy we got in the Staal deal Dumolin (sp) they said he might be NHL ready. They likened him to a Rob Scuderi type of defenceman. Though i wouldn't want to throw him out there as a rookie. But i would rather season him in the minors for atleast a year.
steelhammer wrote:Morrow and Harrington would get torn to shreds in their own zone in the NHL next season. Additionally, Morrow's best asset is offense and that is not what the Pens are lacking on their team right now (they finished first in goals scored last season despite having Crosby for only 25% of the season). Bortuzzo & Strait are the most NHL-ready and no one else is close, save for Despres to a much lesser extent. Bortuzzo and Strait are not flashy, but they get the job done defensively which is exactly what the Pens need. Suter is a nice (and expensive) pipe dream, but realistic solutions already exist in our system.
Nizzy wrote:steelhammer wrote:Morrow and Harrington would get torn to shreds in their own zone in the NHL next season. Additionally, Morrow's best asset is offense and that is not what the Pens are lacking on their team right now (they finished first in goals scored last season despite having Crosby for only 25% of the season). Bortuzzo & Strait are the most NHL-ready and no one else is close, save for Despres to a much lesser extent. Bortuzzo and Strait are not flashy, but they get the job done defensively which is exactly what the Pens need. Suter is a nice (and expensive) pipe dream, but realistic solutions already exist in our system.
And you have a realistic post. I think if we get a defenseman it will be at the deadline, even though right now I can't see any options that would be great. What do you think will happen?
I hope Shero doesn't lose Strait or Bortuzzo in Waivers. This is what I think will happen:
-Lovejoy will just get passed on the depth chart and be gone soon to some dumb team like the islanders.
-Despres might outplay Strait/Bortuzzo/Engelland and be the number 5/6 to start the year but they might keep him in the AHL to start the year to assure we don't lose out on Strait/Bortuzzo on waivers. This will give them some time to simply see who is better/maybe be the longer term option.
-I wouldn't mind stretches where if Martin is so bad again that you sit him over rookies. I know most of us don't like Martin but keeping him as the Veteran for the last 3 years of his deal might not be so bad. Once he's gone in 2-3 seasons there's a great chance Morrow/Harrington will be ready to go.
-I'm concerned by Niskanen going into the top 4 next year. I think part of the reason he looked good is because his roll in PGH was as dependant as he was in DAL.
-I really wanted to see a Letang - Michalek top pairing and Oprik - Martin american line pairing on line 2. I'm not sure if they ever gave those pairings a chance.
Just hard to see anyone making a serious cup run with 3 rookie defenseman in the lineup.
Letang Orpik
Martin Despres
Niskanen Strait
Bortuzzo
Engelland
no idea what to do.
sil wrote:My guess is this. Shero will attempt to sign Suter, but Suter will opt to play in Detroit. Shero will then sign Bryan Allen to a 2 or 3 year deal, and Minnesota will call Shero asking for a trade for Martin. Not sure what we get in that deal, but Paul goes home to Minny.
Brian Dumoulin is more NHL-ready than pretty much any of our d-prospects sans Despres, and even that one could be debated after camp in September.
Prospect-wise, we really have a log-jam on D...which is also why I wouldn't be surprised to see Shero throw a sampler package of some of them (along with a high pick or two) for Bobby Ryan...though who knows if they'd accept the deal when Philly is always willing to sell more of their future?
On the fringe of the NHL...
Despres
Dumoulin
Bortuzzo
Strait
AHL...
Morrow
Sneep
Samuelsson
Grant
Junior's/College...a few years away
Harrington
McNeill
D'Agostino
Maatta
Pouliot
We've got depth to our depth's depth!
DelPen wrote:I'm fine with this on defense:
Orpik-Niskaken
Letang-Despres
Bortuzzo-Strait
Engellend
Lovejoy can be a #8 if he's still here. Let's see what we have on defense and fix holes at the trade deadline.
steelhammer wrote:How can you say that Dumoulin is more ready than Bortuzzo/Strait when:
1. Dumoulin is a couple years younger;
2. Has never played a pro game at any level;
3. Strait and Bortuzzo have significant AHL experience;
4. Strait and Bortuzzo have played NHL games, including playoff.
?!?!?
Pitt87 wrote:DelPen wrote:I'm fine with this on defense:
Orpik-Niskaken
Letang-Despres
Bortuzzo-Strait
Engellend
Lovejoy can be a #8 if he's still here. Let's see what we have on defense and fix holes at the trade deadline.
Ryan Whitney is UFA next year...![]()
Opportunities to sign players like Suter are fleeting. You can never tell what happens between now and the deadline. If this were to happen out of circumstance, it wouldn't end our chances before they began. But if you miss on Suter and hope you can reinforce at the deadline, you have to be sure you will get someone, and the best fit may not be available.
As Brian Metzer tweeted, you couldn't hope to get 87/71/18/9/58/20 on the same FANTASY team, let alone under the cap. Get everyone inked that you can, Ray.
Pavel Bure wrote:Cory Sarich.
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