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2nd unit PP Center?

Postby DelPen on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:32 pm

Assuming that Malkin and Crosby will be on the top unit does that leave Sutter centering the 2nd unit?

As the roster stands now with no Suter or Parise, you would see Neal, Kunitz, Crosby, malkin and Letang on the top unit and then Kennedy, Sutter, Dupuis, Martin and Niskanen on the 2nd unit.

Yuck.
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby Defence21 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:39 pm

If Parise signs, I honestly see two separate units built around the lines, with Letang staying on the ice for the majority of the 2 minutes.

Something like these...

Neal-Malkin-Kunitz-Letang-Sullivan (assuming he re-signs...which seems likely, per Molinari)

Parise-Crosby-Dupuis-Letang-Niskanen
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby meow on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:41 pm

I don't get it. Name me one team that doesn't have a considerable drop-off from the #1 unit to the #2 unit.
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby DelPen on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:43 pm

meow wrote:I don't get it. Name me one team that doesn't have a considerable drop-off from the #1 unit to the #2 unit.


Flyers
Kings

I'm sure I could go on.
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby meow on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:44 pm

DelPen wrote:
meow wrote:I don't get it. Name me one team that doesn't have a considerable drop-off from the #1 unit to the #2 unit.


Flyers
Kings

I'm sure I could go on.

I don't think you can. And those two examples don't misprove my point.
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby viva la ben on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:45 pm

You don't pay Parise top dollar to not play him on the top pp.
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby opie22002 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:45 pm

I like the idea of two units myself (if we get Parise). I think this forces each line to be productive during their short stint on the ice. Crosby and Malkin play the same spot as well. Plus, having the lines stay together means that Bylsma doesn't have to spend the next 2-3 shifts getting everything back in line.
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:46 pm

I'm 90% sure Sutter played all situations for carolina, so I assume he'd be in. Also could be used in certain situations as the rh faceoff for the number 1.
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:48 pm

DelPen wrote:
meow wrote:I don't get it. Name me one team that doesn't have a considerable drop-off from the #1 unit to the #2 unit.


Flyers
Kings

I'm sure I could go on.


The kings don't have a dropoff because their powerplay sucks. And you can't go on.
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby lemieuxReturns on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:49 pm

DelPen wrote:Assuming that Malkin and Crosby will be on the top unit does that leave Sutter centering the 2nd unit?

As the roster stands now with no Suter or Parise, you would see Neal, Kunitz, Crosby, malkin and Letang on the top unit and then Kennedy, Sutter, Dupuis, Martin and Niskanen on the 2nd unit.

Yuck.


No worries. Malkin, Crosby, and Letang will continue to overextend themselves for the entire 2 minute powerplay. The only time you will really need to consider a second unit will be for the 20 seconds around the 3 minute mark of a 5 minute major.
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby lemieuxReturns on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:50 pm

viva la ben wrote:You don't pay Parise top dollar to not play him on the top pp.


"no one puts baby in the corner"
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby AlexPKeaton on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:56 pm

Keep Malkin and Crosby together until Malkin signs long term, with or without Parise.
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby Gaucho on Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:59 pm

I miss the days when we only had to worry about our top unit.
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby IanMoran on Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:02 pm

Defence21 wrote:If Parise signs, I honestly see two separate units built around the lines, with Letang staying on the ice for the majority of the 2 minutes.

Something like these...

Neal-Malkin-Kunitz-Letang-Sullivan (assuming he re-signs...which seems likely, per Molinari)

Parise-Crosby-Dupuis-Letang-Niskanen

I've always been for keep your top guys together, but if they add Parise.. they're just so loaded it make sense cause you can have 2 super units

Wouldn't even be 2 lines.. make it 1a / 1b

Could even probably easily slide guys back and forth between line 1 and 2 depending on who's fresh
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby Hawkeynut on Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:08 pm

You hope that the top line scores so you don't even get to the 2nd unit. The top unit typically stays out for 60-75% of the entire PP anyways.

WHO CARES?!?
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby Mr. Colby on Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:29 pm

So much has yet to happen for this sqauad. Today the 2nd PP looks bad but talk to me in August.
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby penny lane on Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:33 pm

not penciling in any free agents... in any chart / graph/ unit until sunday or monday.
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby pressure=9Pa on Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:50 pm

I like 2 units - and starting with the second unit if 87 (or others) is finishing a long shift when we get the call. Many times last year we put a tired first unit on the ice - just because they're the top unit. After cahsing the puck up and down the ice for another 1:20 on the PP, they were really spent.
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Re: 2nd unit PP Center?

Postby farnham16 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:19 pm

With Parise and Suter:

Kunitz Malkin Neal
Letang Suter

Parise Crosby Dupuis
Niskanen Despres

Without Parise and Suter:

Neal Crosby Malkin
Letang Niskanen

Kunitz Sutter Dupuis
Martin Despres
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