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11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby DudeMan2766 on Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:10 am

I was waiting in line to get into Starlake parking lot for the Tim McGraw Kenny Chesney concert. I remember getting out and running like 5 cars back to tell my friends. I was with my fairly new gf at the time, and my entire day was ruined and I was a miserable person to be around that day. I'm not sure if it was cause it became a reality, because he went to the damn Caps, or we got a bunch of WPIHL players back.

http://old.post-gazette.com/penguins/20010711jagrnet1.asp

The trade was hailed by The Washington Post as one of the boldest maneuvers in Washington sporting history.


:roll: It takes a lot of balls to trade absolutely nobody for the best player in the game by far at the time.
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby Hawkeynut on Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:31 am

He called Beech the key to the deal and a potential franchise player whose skills are similar to former Penguins great Ron Francis.


I think... wait... *facepalm*
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby Froggy on Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:32 am

#LupaschuckWatch
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby Dickie Dunn on Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:46 am

At least we got rid of Kucera.
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby cheesesteakwithegg on Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:27 am

I remember that day quite well. It always stands out to me since it took place on the day after the MLB All Star game, aka the slowest sports day of the year.
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby She'sTheFastest on Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:05 am

Hawkeynut wrote:
He called Beech the key to the deal and a potential franchise player whose skills are similar to former Penguins great Ron Francis.


I think... wait... *facepalm*


Haha you guys beat me to it.
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby BfromD on Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:11 am

How nauseating that Frankie Kucera was the second best player in that deal... Ugh
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby penny lane on Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:11 am

Hello Evgeni and Sidney! :D
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby drtofu66 on Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:42 am

But- But- But-- Beech was an 8th overall draft pick!

That means we got a great deal!
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby no name on Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:52 am

I don't know, 3 total duds, But lets face it was there also was 5 million dollars that traded hands in that deal also, wasn't there?
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby jimjom on Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:23 pm

Just curious why the 11th anniversary is being remembered, not the 10th.
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby Hawkeynut on Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:32 pm

jimjom wrote:Just curious why the 11th anniversary is being remembered, not the 10th.


Probably because we were still wooing over the signing of Steve Sullivan. This year we have Tanner Glass. Not much of a conversation going on these days,... yet.
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby jimjom on Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:46 pm

Hawkeynut wrote:
jimjom wrote:Just curious why the 11th anniversary is being remembered, not the 10th.


Probably because we were still wooing over the signing of Steve Sullivan. This year we have Tanner Glass. Not much of a conversation going on these days,... yet.


Well said. Forgot about the excitement over Sullivan. I know I was amped, so that makes sense to me.
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby BfromD on Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:46 pm

jimjom wrote:Just curious why the 11th anniversary is being remembered, not the 10th.


Because the Jagr trade was clearly Staal's fault. Ronnie or Barry Pedersen has nothing to do with it whatsoever.
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby DudeMan2766 on Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:52 pm

Yes. We are remembering the 11th anniversery of the divorce being final to also honor our most recent divorce. Next up today Shero is going to swing a similar deal but in reverse sending TK, Sneep, and somehow still CPZ off for Nash.
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby Mongoose87 on Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:53 pm

DudeMan2766 wrote:Yes. We are remembering the 11th anniversery of the divorce being final to also honor our most recent divorce. Next up today Shero is going to swing a similar deal but in reverse sending TK, Sneep, and somehow still CPZ off for Nash.

Nash is nowhere near as good or whiny as Jagr was.
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby It'sagreatdayforhockey! on Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:44 pm

jimjom wrote:Just curious why the 11th anniversary is being remembered, not the 10th.



Probably because it wouldn't make any sense to have a 10th anniversary since it happened 11 years ago.
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby KG on Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:52 pm

Not sure what was worse, the actual trade or the actual 3 top picks the Caps missed on...

We all know this was never a hockey trade. This trade was done for the $5mill the Caps threw our way to help stave off bankruptcy...
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby Nizzy on Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:14 pm

Really wish we kept Francis somehow and he ended career in Pittsburgh. :(
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby Hawkeynut on Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:26 pm

Nizzy wrote:Really wish we kept Francis somehow and he ended career in Pittsburgh. :(


But we had a new Ronny Franchise in Beech. There was no need to have two of them. :P
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby topshelf on Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:31 pm

I am happy that every moment of the "dark ages" that we endured happened, as now we have Sid and Malkin, and the luxury of hearing our name involved in the potential signing of every high-end free agent.
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby Hawkeynut on Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:41 pm

You have to experience the lows to appreciate the highs. Even the mighty Red Wings were a crap team around the time when Yzerman came along. We are very fortunate the luck of the draws and the timing our "rebuild" took place. We got 2 new generational talents at a time when 2 of our last generational talents were not their way out.

I agree, in retrospect the trade involving Jagr was one of the best trades in the history of this franchise. But at the time, it really hurt as the future of the franchise was very much in doubt.

Hindsight is always 20/20, we could very well be all fans of another team right now or none at all. The Pens were at their worst and the hard work of a few key folks brought it back.
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby BurghersAndDogsSports on Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:12 pm

I remember the good old days of the trades that made you think.....what? Then you kept reading until you got the financial part.

This was one of those deals that even if they turned out to be what everyone expected (a 2nd line ctr, a 3rd line ctr and a decent d-men) it still sucked. I know there was some Ronnie Francis talk but for the most part he projected as at 2nd liner at best. I think but am not 100% sure that the Rangers were ticked because they offered a better package but no cash. Cant quite remember for sure.
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby netwolf on Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:51 pm

Nizzy wrote:Really wish we kept Francis somehow and he ended career in Pittsburgh. :(


Francis was the one guy that could always get through to Jagr. Pens couldn't have afforded to keep Francis, but I still believe if they found a way to do that, Jagr never asks out.
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Re: 11 years ago today JagrWatch 1.0 ended...or started

Postby Hawkeynut on Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:57 am

BurghersAndDogsSports wrote:I remember the good old days of the trades that made you think.....what? Then you kept reading until you got the financial part.


They still make us think... of numbers. Like how on deadline day you try and rationalize how a $3m cap hit player fits on a team with only $1m in cap space remaining.
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