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joopen wrote:But we are going to have our defense on cheap EL deals so we have more money to spend on forwards.
Brian wrote:Most NHL teams would trade places with the Penguins in a heartbeat.
sil wrote:Personally, I need a little more to go on than just "insert penguin not named Crosby or Malkin" got "exposed." ??? What does that mean exactly? I can say for certainty after watching the pens/flyers series that both Crosby and Malkin were embarrassed defensively by the hard work of the Flyers forecheckers. I don't know if that's "exposed," but it was certainly real...and quite frustrating.
Brian wrote:@steel
Crosby could take a hit to the head and retire. Malkin could blow out his knee. Orpik could be broken down and finished. Fleury could never recover the playoff loss. Neal could revert to a 20 goal guy...
My point is this: Why is everyone is distress? This blog seems to be filled with gloom and doom posters. Most NHL teams would trade places with the Penguins in a heartbeat.
BurghersAndDogsSports wrote:sil wrote:Personally, I need a little more to go on than just "insert penguin not named Crosby or Malkin" got "exposed." ??? What does that mean exactly? I can say for certainty after watching the pens/flyers series that both Crosby and Malkin were embarrassed defensively by the hard work of the Flyers forecheckers. I don't know if that's "exposed," but it was certainly real...and quite frustrating.
Well, Ill define exposed. Orpik and Dupuis were on the ice for like 14 goals against each. In a 7 games series players can get exposed not just because of scouting (I mean they scout the regular season too) but scouting against your specific team and all of your specific adjustments (and their ongoing adjustments to them etc.). Its what makes a 7 game series so much more compelling and allows for "upsets".
The Penguins lack of forecheck was exposed as well as some defensive flaws were exposed in general sure. But they exposed guys like Orpik and Dupuis for lack of positioning, lack of lateral movement and lack of strength compared to what they need for their roles.
Streaks House wrote:BurghersAndDogsSports wrote:sil wrote:Personally, I need a little more to go on than just "insert penguin not named Crosby or Malkin" got "exposed." ??? What does that mean exactly? I can say for certainty after watching the pens/flyers series that both Crosby and Malkin were embarrassed defensively by the hard work of the Flyers forecheckers. I don't know if that's "exposed," but it was certainly real...and quite frustrating.
Well, Ill define exposed. Orpik and Dupuis were on the ice for like 14 goals against each. In a 7 games series players can get exposed not just because of scouting (I mean they scout the regular season too) but scouting against your specific team and all of your specific adjustments (and their ongoing adjustments to them etc.). Its what makes a 7 game series so much more compelling and allows for "upsets".
The Penguins lack of forecheck was exposed as well as some defensive flaws were exposed in general sure. But they exposed guys like Orpik and Dupuis for lack of positioning, lack of lateral movement and lack of strength compared to what they need for their roles.
You can't be serious?
BurghersAndDogsSports wrote:Brian wrote:@steel
Crosby could take a hit to the head and retire. Malkin could blow out his knee. Orpik could be broken down and finished. Fleury could never recover the playoff loss. Neal could revert to a 20 goal guy...
My point is this: Why is everyone is distress? This blog seems to be filled with gloom and doom posters. Most NHL teams would trade places with the Penguins in a heartbeat.
Because if Orpik goes down we have 7 million d-men in the minors to replace him, if Malkin or Crosby go down we would have Suter as our number 2 center (flanked by Jefrrey and Dupuis) and probably Vitale as our number 3 flanked by Cooke and TK. That scares the beeeejafj;adjf out of me.
mikey287 wrote:Frankly, I'm not using one second of that series to discuss players' strengths and weaknesses...it was an anomaly on a historic level...it was frustrating to be a part of, but now that it's over, it's long forgotten...if you can take anything out of that series, it's the lack of discipline and command that Bylsma has...he lost the team at some point during the series, and it's unclear whether he couldn't or didn't want to get them back...
Very tough to lose a team and get them back, so I hope he can put his foot down and keep their attention this time around...but saying that this player was "exposed" and this player was "exposed" is just an exercise in nincompoopery...
The team changed when Crosby came back, it was up to the coach to get them back...if those Islanders games late in the season weren't a red flag, I don't know what was...that's on coaching...that was the only thing that you could construe as "exposed"...
mikey287 wrote:...but saying that this player was "exposed" and this player was "exposed" is just an exercise in nincompoopery...
sil wrote:mikey287 wrote:...but saying that this player was "exposed" and this player was "exposed" is just an exercise in nincompoopery...
mikey287 wrote:That's not what I said...I think we would have lost that series even if we played Ottawa...we weren't beat by the other team, we lost...
nincompoopery...
steelhammer wrote:Can anyone who follows any of the other teams report if there have been any players picked in the 1st round this year who had a worse prospects camp that Pouliot? Just curious.
joopen wrote:steelhammer wrote:Can anyone who follows any of the other teams report if there have been any players picked in the 1st round this year who had a worse prospects camp that Pouliot? Just curious.
Oh I'm sorry. I didn't realize you watched him every day. What did he not do well?
steelhammer wrote:joopen wrote:steelhammer wrote:Can anyone who follows any of the other teams report if there have been any players picked in the 1st round this year who had a worse prospects camp that Pouliot? Just curious.
Oh I'm sorry. I didn't realize you watched him every day. What did he not do well?
I haven't read ONE SINGLE good thing about him this camp. Just seems unusual for a team's 1st round pick.
steelhammer wrote:Can anyone who follows any of the other teams report if there have been any players picked in the 1st round this year who had a worse prospects camp that Pouliot? Just curious.
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