meow wrote:This entire Paul Martin argument is tiring.
I don't know, it is kind of fun to watch posters insult and bad mouth each other.
Not sure why it turned into that considering we seemed to agree about Martin himself lol!
IMO this whole board has become rather testy lately. If you disagree with certain people, look out. I'm still blaming it on hockey withdrawl and the quick exit from the SC playoffs.
meow wrote:This entire Paul Martin argument is tiring.
I don't know, it is kind of fun to watch posters insult and bad mouth each other.
Not sure why it turned into that considering we seemed to agree about Martin himself lol!
IMO this whole board has become rather testy lately. If you disagree with certain people, look out. I'm still blaming it on hockey withdrawl and the quick exit from the SC playoffs.
I blame it on people taking themselves too seriously.
Your original point is that Shero didn't throw one player under the bus for a bad season (he didn't have) after a loss that was a total team meltdown. Super rational...
You're right, I didn't think you meant publicly b/c that makes no sense. Not sure why that would be expected now, especially after such a magnificent melt down in the playoffs.
I'll just say you "won" here. And with an article that was written 3 days after the team just got eliminated from a series they got humiliated in (let up 30 goals... might be shocking to some that Martin didn't let them all up), it was definitely the time to single out one player's season above all else. As a matter of fact, I can't think of a better time to hold a player accountable, like in private when having exit interviews about the past season (that would be a terrible time). Just giving you that is much easier than trying to figure out how you rationally think that point in time, less than 72 hours after the team was eliminated, was the right time to pick one player out of the group and hold him accountable above all else. I look forward to you telling me my thoughts on any players we sing going forward this summer!
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and in doing so prove yourself less capable of polite, logical, discussion than the children at the special needs school at which I work.
You hammer my point home by contradicting yourself (well done there):
bhaw wrote::roll: Your original point is that Shero didn't throw one player under the bus for a bad season (he didn't have)
bhaw wrote:It's not defending Paul Martin in the slightest and actually acknowledges the fact that he didn't play well (had I though he played well, I probably would have questions what PM had to be held accountable for
I will continue with another example of you misunderstanding me:
bhaw wrote:how you rationally think that point in time, less than 72 hours after the team was eliminated, was the right time to pick one player out of the group and hold him accountable
When did I say anything in my original post blaming Martin for the playoffs? The article I referenced was the first that popped up in Google and just happened to be written after the playoffs. In the quote Shero defends PM's play during the last 20 games of the regular season whilst the author (NOT ME) calls out both Martin and Michalek for underperforming following the playoffs.
bhaw wrote:after a loss that was a total team meltdown. Super rational...
It was never my intention to blame the playoff collapse, the JFK assassination, famine in Africa or 911 on Paul Martin, I was simply stating that at no point during the regular or post season was Martin held publicly accountable for what was IMO one of his worst seasons, irrespective of how the rest of the team played.
I hope we can both move on from this misunderstanding as I'm sure there are more constructive things to be doing with our respective lives. If, however, you cannot resist another attempt at insulting me and perpetuating a pointless argument, try to relax and stay away from whatever is making you so angry. Perhaps a walk outdoors away from the computer, or some deep breathing?
and in doing so prove yourself less capable of polite, logical, discussion than the children at the special needs school at which I work.
You hammer my point home by contradicting yourself (well done there):
bhaw wrote::roll: Your original point is that Shero didn't throw one player under the bus for a bad season (he didn't have)
bhaw wrote:It's not defending Paul Martin in the slightest and actually acknowledges the fact that he didn't play well (had I though he played well, I probably would have questions what PM had to be held accountable for
I will continue with another example of you misunderstanding me:
bhaw wrote:how you rationally think that point in time, less than 72 hours after the team was eliminated, was the right time to pick one player out of the group and hold him accountable
When did I say anything in my original post blaming Martin for the playoffs? The article I referenced was the first that popped up in Google and just happened to be written after the playoffs. In the quote Shero defends PM's play during the last 20 games of the regular season whilst the author (NOT ME) calls out both Martin and Michalek for underperforming following the playoffs.
bhaw wrote:after a loss that was a total team meltdown. Super rational...
It was never my intention to blame the playoff collapse, the JFK assassination, famine in Africa or 911 on Paul Martin, I was simply stating that at no point during the regular or post season was Martin held publicly accountable for what was IMO one of his worst seasons, irrespective of how the rest of the team played.
I hope we can both move on from this misunderstanding as I'm sure there are more constructive things to be doing with our respective lives. If, however, you cannot resist another attempt at insulting me and perpetuating a pointless argument, try to relax and stay away from whatever is making you so angry. Perhaps a walk outdoors away from the computer, or some deep breathing?
Thanks, but I needed to respond to some insults and clarify a misunderstanding as clearly as I could. I agree the whole thing is not worth reading for most LGPers, but I couldn't just pick up the phone to discuss it with bhaw.
Thanks, but I needed to respond to some insults and clarify a misunderstanding as clearly as I could. I agree the whole thing is not worth reading for most LGPers, but I couldn't just pick up the phone to discuss it with bhaw.