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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby Gaucho on Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:18 am

25/25 is good enough for me.
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby Pitts on Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:19 am

Gaucho wrote:25/25 is good enough for me.

20/20 is hindsight.
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby steelhammer on Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:26 am

Gaucho wrote:25/25 is good enough for me.


My prediction is that he will fall below this within a couple seasons and at that point he'll be dropped from the top line and his numbers will fall much further. He'll be a 20/20 3rd liner making nearly $5M per season at that point. That's why I think this will ultimately be a bad deal for the Flyers.
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby KG on Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:34 pm

steelhammer wrote:
Gaucho wrote:25/25 is good enough for me.


My prediction is that he will fall below this within a couple seasons and at that point he'll be dropped from the top line and his numbers will fall much further. He'll be a 20/20 3rd liner making nearly $5M per season at that point. That's why I think this will ultimately be a bad deal for the Flyers.


It doesn't matter. When the deal starts to look bad they will just deal Hartnell for cap relief. Happens every year...
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby Zach6668 on Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:28 pm

Sure, but a true 30-30 would likely get more than 5 million, likely more like 6.... so what's your point?
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby littlemoonboot on Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:56 am

I hate the Flyers. Just felt like saying that. Have a nice day.
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby mikey287 on Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:32 am

littlemoonboot wrote:I hate the Flyers. Just felt like saying that. Have a nice day.


Best point made in the thread so far.
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby pugilist13 on Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:00 pm

I hate the Flyers as much as the next guy, but i give Holmgren credit. The guy rolls the dice over and over and makes his team better. Except for between the pipes of course. But really, the guy dont sit on his hands hoping "this will be the year". He's aggressive and i applaud that. He'll move Hartnell in a couple of years to some saps like Columbus, and we will all be saying "where are the getting all this cap room ?"
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby newarenanow on Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:46 pm

Rylan wrote:I actually like Hartnell. I would have loved to have him here in Pittsburgh.


I will fully admit, if he had on a Pens uni, I'd love him.

But he doesn't, and especially have on a Flyer one, I hate him.
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby Idoit40fans on Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:06 pm

I would probably hate Hartnell if all other Pens fans' insanely over the top hatred of him didn't force me to look at him with a straight head. I would really like him to be a Penguin.
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby Malkamaniac on Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:56 pm

I like Hartnell a lot, it's a shame he's a Flyer.
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby steelhammer on Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:24 pm

Yeah, it was so cool when he tried to bite Letang's thumb off. Sign him up!

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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby Malkamaniac on Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:54 pm

steelhammer wrote:Yeah, it was so cool when he tried to bite Letang's thumb off. Sign him up!



It was even cooler when Letang went after a guy who hasn't fought in ages and tried to SHHHH the crowd again before getting kicked out of an elimination game.
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby steelhammer on Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:26 pm

Malkamaniac wrote:
steelhammer wrote:Yeah, it was so cool when he tried to bite Letang's thumb off. Sign him up!



It was even cooler when Letang went after a guy who hasn't fought in ages and tried to SHHHH the crowd again before getting kicked out of an elimination game.


As if I care at all about anyone in a Flyer uniform getting pounded? And this has anything to do with Hartnell? How is that even relevant to this discussion?
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby BurghersAndDogsSports on Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:57 pm

steelhammer wrote:
Malkamaniac wrote:
steelhammer wrote:Yeah, it was so cool when he tried to bite Letang's thumb off. Sign him up!



It was even cooler when Letang went after a guy who hasn't fought in ages and tried to SHHHH the crowd again before getting kicked out of an elimination game.


As if I care at all about anyone in a Flyer uniform getting pounded? And this has anything to do with Hartnell? How is that even relevant to this discussion?


you don't care what a guy is like or what he does no matter how stupid as long as he is a valuable member of your team.
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby shmenguin on Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:08 am

Eeeh...biting a guy and embarassing yourself. Apples and oranges
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby BurghersAndDogsSports on Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:12 am

shmenguin wrote:Eeeh...biting a guy and embarassing yourself. Apples and oranges


True, but I think the point is if Hartnell was a part of this team his whole career people would like him. We hated Darius Kaspiritis until the actual day he was traded for, then we made signs welcoming him.
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby shafnutz05 on Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:40 am

Part of my liking of Hartnell is a direct result of people getting apoplectic at everything he does on the ice. Then again, I see more of his off-ice persona living in this market, so I guess that helps too.
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby Idoit40fans on Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:15 am

I concur.
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby shmenguin on Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:04 am

the "if so and so was on your team, you'd like him" argument has always rung pretty empty with me. of course that's going to be the case 99% of the time (with brandon prust as the exception). doesn't mean hartnell isn't a turd
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby Malkamaniac on Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:03 pm

shmenguin wrote:Eeeh...biting a guy and embarassing yourself. Apples and oranges


More or less what I was getting at in regards to the liking a player no matter what he does you just look at it differently by what color the uniform is.
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Re: Hartnell extended

Postby count2infinity on Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:37 pm

I'm actually a fan of Hartnell. There, I said it.
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