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LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby IanMoran on Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:58 pm

Sorry for doing this outside of LGP NFL, but I figured it would only get 1 or 2 responses if I posted it in that thread.

I'm bored and I thought this would be fun

Let's figure out LGP's top 10 qb's

I'll post the results sometime on Tues. or Wed.

Your top vote is worth 10 points, 2nd is worth 9, 3rd is worth 8, and so on.
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby IanMoran on Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:58 pm

1. Rodgers
2. Brees
3. Brady
4. Peyton
5. Romo
6. Ben
7. Stafford
8. Eli
9. Rivers
10. Ryan
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby thepittman on Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:02 pm

1. Roethlisberger
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby Why Not Us on Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:08 pm

1. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Drew Brees
4. Peyton Manning
5. Ben Roethlisberger
6. Eli Manning
7. Phillip Rivers
8. Matt Ryan
9. Cam Newton
10. Matthew Stafford
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby tifosi77 on Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:10 pm

IanMoran wrote:1. Rodgers
2. Brees
3. Brady
4. Peyton
5. Romo
6. Ben
7. Stafford
8. Eli
9. Rivers
10. Ryan

This list, but I'd put Ben at 5, Eli at 6, Romo at 7 and Stafford at 8.
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby FreeCandy44 on Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:15 pm

1. Bubby Brister

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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby TheHammer24 on Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:24 pm

I think Ben is 5. You have Romo wayyy to high. I also think Brees is 3 or 4 but He's overrated in the same way Eli is underrated -- stadium conditions
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby IanMoran on Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:49 pm

TheHammer24 wrote:I think Ben is 5. You have Romo wayyy to high. I also think Brees is 3 or 4 but He's overrated in the same way Eli is underrated -- stadium conditions

I don't look at team stats. Actually watch Romo, he's a great qb...

I found it funny the whole "OMGGZZZZZ ROMO OUTPLAYED ELI!!" week 1. He's better than him his whole career lol. Eli suddenly isn't elite because he's been on better teams

I had Rodgers 1 before he won superbowl.. then he did and everyone says he's amazing (he was amazing before). I had Brees > Ben before he won his SB, and I'm not going to change Eli

I can promise you if Romo won a sb (playing the exact same way he always has), he'd suddenly be in everyones top 4.. Its just stupid (for lack of a better term)
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby MWB on Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:00 pm

1. RGIII
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Everyone else.
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby Staggy on Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:28 pm

Ready for a 100% bias list?

1) Brady
2) Rodgers
3) Brees
4) Peyton (would be on same tier as top 3 if I was sure if he was 100% healthy)
5) Eli
6) Ben
Idk Rivers, Romo, Cutler make up some of the the remaining list, I'm just happy Penn state won their first game in 14 years or whatever.
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby shmenguin on Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:37 pm

Romo will have a hard time winning a super bowl if he keeps the habit of royally screwing up at horrible moments.

Or is it just coincidence that Ben has 2 and he has 1...playoff win.

Romo is above average, but putting him that high is crazy
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby Staggy on Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:44 pm

I feel like Romo deserves the ~10 range. No higher, no lower.
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby JoseCuervo on Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:09 pm

IanMoran wrote:
TheHammer24 wrote:I think Ben is 5. You have Romo wayyy to high. I also think Brees is 3 or 4 but He's overrated in the same way Eli is underrated -- stadium conditions

Actually watch Romo, he's a great qb...


...at turning the ball over
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby IanMoran on Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:31 pm

JoseCuervo wrote:
IanMoran wrote:
TheHammer24 wrote:I think Ben is 5. You have Romo wayyy to high. I also think Brees is 3 or 4 but He's overrated in the same way Eli is underrated -- stadium conditions

Actually watch Romo, he's a great qb...


...at turning the ball over

Nice try, but...

Romo

73 ints in 2,621 attempts or.. 1 int every 36 attempts

Eli
186 ints in 3,053 or...1 int every 30 attempts

Ben
101 in 3,353 attempts or... 1 int every 33 attempts

You guys are just brainwashed by ESPN
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby IanMoran on Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:37 pm

shmenguin wrote:Romo will have a hard time winning a super bowl if he keeps the habit of royally screwing up at horrible moments.

We get it.. he messed up a hold

Let's look at his "ROMO CAN'T PLAY IN CLUTCH / 4TH QUARTER/ DECEMBER" stats last season

December: 119.1 qb rating
4th quarter: 99.8 qb rating
last 2 minutes of half: 94.8 rating
Ahead by 1-8 pts: 109.4 qb rating
Trailing by 1-8 pts: 102.4 qb rating
In red zone: 105.9 qb rating

18 TDs in redzone.. 0 ints

etc..
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby PghSkins on Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:57 pm

MWB wrote:1. RGIII
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Everyone else.
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:40 pm

Did you create this thread to pick a fight re: romo?
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby Froggy on Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:23 pm

My top 5 is probably a group of Manning, Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rogers

My next 5 would have Ben, Romo, Newton, Ryan, Stafford

maybe switch Newton out with Rivers, maybe not.
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby ulf on Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:38 pm

is this right now? whole body of work over career?
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby bhaw on Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:12 am

Letang Is The Truth wrote:Did you create this thread to pick a fight re: romo?


Agreed. Seems weird that there is a pocket full of ammo about Romo. You don't just pull those stats in 5 seconds when someone questions you.
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby bhaw on Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:20 am

End of the day, NFL QBs are measured by what they have accomplished. Ben would barely crack a top 10 if he didn't have 2 Super Bowl rings. Romo isn't terrible, but he hasn't done jack in the post season. Ben, Eli, Peyton, Brees, Rodgers, and Brady are all SB winning QBs. Are Romo's numbers any better than Rivers' (other than last year Rivers)? They are both guys that get to tread water at the bottom of the top 10 until they do something in the post season.
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby JoseCuervo on Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:39 am

IanMoran wrote:
JoseCuervo wrote:
IanMoran wrote:
TheHammer24 wrote:I think Ben is 5. You have Romo wayyy to high. I also think Brees is 3 or 4 but He's overrated in the same way Eli is underrated -- stadium conditions

Actually watch Romo, he's a great qb...


...at turning the ball over

Nice try, but...

Romo

73 ints in 2,621 attempts or.. 1 int every 36 attempts

Eli
186 ints in 3,053 or...1 int every 30 attempts

Ben
101 in 3,353 attempts or... 1 int every 33 attempts

You guys are just brainwashed by ESPN


INTs aren't the only way to turn the ball over. He's also got 45 fumbles to go with those 73 picks. And his turnovers cost games. He's one of the last players you want for a last minute drive. Even most cowboy fans understand.
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby IanMoran on Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:47 am

I'm going to sum up Romo talk with this post. I really hope this thread takes a new direction after this, because I promise this wasn't my intention.

I'm big on Romo... why I rated him 5. I was immediately questioned on that selection and then this thread became side tracked, which I apologize for. I didnt have his stats memorized, although I did know he had really good splits in all situations. I just quick googled them when debate came up (all those stats are on his NFL.com profile, wasn't like I went searching forever for some pro-Romo campaign lol). I realize quarterbacks are judged by championships, I just feel that's ridiculous / worst argument ever. When I first joined LGP i was actually warned by an unnamed LGP mod because I had similar argument over Drew Brees when I was "obviously trolling" for saying he was better than Ben. That may seem ridiculous now, but a couple years ago he was viewed in simlar light as Romo. I try to judge by what I actually see in talent / not results of team (similar to what NFL scouts do with NCAA talent). My opinion of Romo just happens to differ / I feel a lot of people are influenced by ESPN media.. For example, if you want to throw in fumbles too.. Romo still has a lot less turnovers than most NFL qbs

OK. I swear I'm done and I wasn't expecting this response. I can't believe I've gone on such a long rant defending a dallas qb that I obviously don't root for.

I'd really appreaciate if this thread turned into actually rating qbs rather than arguing the merits of one that I personally have ranked higher than most.
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby IanMoran on Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:47 am

ulf wrote:is this right now? whole body of work over career?

right now
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Re: LGP NFL Top 10 QB

Postby IanMoran on Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:49 am

Froggy wrote:My top 5 is probably a group of Manning, Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rogers

My next 5 would have Ben, Romo, Newton, Ryan, Stafford

maybe switch Newton out with Rivers, maybe not.

I agree with this actually. I have those pretty much exact same "tiers." I fele you could put tier 1 / tier 2 in any order and it would be hard to argue with
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