BurghersAndDogsSports wrote:
No, Obama's plan (as revealed in the primary season) was focused mainly on controlling costs, not on expanding coverage (which is pretty much the exact opposite of the ACA), created an insurance pool and even had some element of non-profit participation by private insurance companies. (His plan was pilloried in the press as being no real reform, as it left a fairly sizable chunk of people uninsured) This is the plan that was his opening position for the reform negotiations that began in March 2009. Four months later, he dropped his opposition to the mandate.
If the ACA was not his plan . why didn't he veto it.[/quote]
He changed his plan to incorporate the mandate, the thinking being that since it was a conservative idea that had been floating around since 1989 (and was the core of many of the Republican counter-proposals to Hillarycare in 1993/4, and was a component of Romneycare in Massachusetts) and had significant bi-partisan support in the past that Congressional Republicans would be more willing work for a compromise in that framework.
Little did Obama and the Democrats know that between 1994 and 2009/10, the definition of the word "socialist" had been changed to include anything promoted by the Kenyan Muslim non-president...... including even the Republican's own ideas.[/quote][/quote]
So in the debate, he tore Hillary a new one and even mocked her with questions about how this could even be a reality. Then after, he went back to her plan because that could get passed. And now he is a hero, even though Bill and Hillary were all but "approval rated" out on what he ultimately put in? So anyways.....
The biggest issue you are missing in your reply is you start at the primaries -
because he had 100% support of the mandate [b]PRIOR to the primaries[/b], his destruction of it during (which you note above) and his back tracking of it after. You can claim bipartisan all you want on the last part but you can not start a book halfway through and claim the last switch was for bipartisan reaons- I think its pretty clear that it was in his plans all along.....since he actually had said that in his recent past. He didnt switch to garner some right wing support. He switched to go back to his original beliefs.
Not to mention that everyone focuses on a few elements of the act/history and forgets that he originally put a lot of planning into the taxing of businesses with exemptions to less profitable entities - that the public loved (and had zero chance of getting passed on a thousand different levels)- all that went away.
These all were not bipartisan angles. These were clear blatantly dishonest moves by him.
Just as you can claim that there is back and forth from the right on this plan and their attacking of anything he does as socialist, the backlash to this plan isnt about one or two issues that are always pointed out. Followed up with its pretty clear Obama knew exactly what he was doing.[/quote]