Gaucho wrote:I have no idea what the owners want at this point.
They want to get to 50/50 this season, not in 4 yrs per the NHLPA plan.
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Gaucho wrote:I have no idea what the owners want at this point.
Gaucho wrote:I have no idea what the owners want at this point.
pens_CT wrote:For those who like to look at numbers and comparisons between the NHL and NHLPA proposals see below.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/globe-on-hockey/the-nhlpa-proposal-by-the-numbers/article5530468/?cmpid=rss1&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
jmh470 wrote:I have yet to understand the consternation over the unfulfilled years of existing contracts. The players are behaving as if they have already performed those years of bargained-for service and are simply waiting for the paychecks to arrive. Neither party has performed on those years and, as such, they are legally, rationally, and ethically open to negotiation, and I'm not even considering the 'subject to existing CBA' language in every contract.
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Gaucho wrote:jmh470 wrote:I have yet to understand the consternation over the unfulfilled years of existing contracts. The players are behaving as if they have already performed those years of bargained-for service and are simply waiting for the paychecks to arrive. Neither party has performed on those years and, as such, they are legally, rationally, and ethically open to negotiation, and I'm not even considering the 'subject to existing CBA' language in every contract.
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That is an... er, interesting take on it.
skullman80 wrote:Both sides can go F themselves at this point.
FreeCandy44 wrote:I refuse to buy any pens stuff for x mas.
Gaucho wrote:jmh470 wrote:I have yet to understand the consternation over the unfulfilled years of existing contracts. The players are behaving as if they have already performed those years of bargained-for service and are simply waiting for the paychecks to arrive. Neither party has performed on those years and, as such, they are legally, rationally, and ethically open to negotiation, and I'm not even considering the 'subject to existing CBA' language in every contract.
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That is an... er, interesting take on it.
RisslingsMissingTeeth wrote:I read the article. From what I gather, the players have offered nothing new. If I'm Daly, I'm taking this into the bathroom and using it for what it was intended for. What a waste of paper.
Sarcastic wrote:FreeCandy44 wrote:I refuse to buy any pens stuff for x mas.
That will show those bastards.
jmh470 wrote:Gaucho wrote:jmh470 wrote:I have yet to understand the consternation over the unfulfilled years of existing contracts. The players are behaving as if they have already performed those years of bargained-for service and are simply waiting for the paychecks to arrive. Neither party has performed on those years and, as such, they are legally, rationally, and ethically open to negotiation, and I'm not even considering the 'subject to existing CBA' language in every contract.
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That is an... er, interesting take on it.
If by 'interesting' you mean 'the proper legal interpretation of those contracts,' then it is, indeed, quite 'interesting.'
Gaucho wrote:mikey287 wrote:I'm sure the pro-union propagandists will make a big stink about the NHL's response (before fully hearing their position) but the owners have bent already...this is the first time the players have come to the table with anything remotely reasonable. I just got back from work, so I'm just now digesting some of this issue, but I see that a lot of the PA's proposals involve flat dollars...meaning that it is no longer linked to revenues...I don't understand how that can be accepted by the owners. We just lost an entire season over that issue, now we're gonna lose another one because the terrorist wants to undo it...? Come on...
I'll await the NHL's response...but the PA's offer, AIUI, seems to take its sweet time getting down to 50/50, the other sports leagues are there and have been there...not in 2017...
Isn't it a tad ridiculous to call Fehr a "terrorist"?
Hawkeynut wrote:My head hurts.
I can't wait for the NHL to flat out reject it to see the fall out. At this point I am about as cynical as they come.
Gaucho wrote:There's never been a lockout or strike in the NBA, NFL, or MLB?
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