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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby pittsoccer33 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:03 pm

Sarcastic wrote:
pittsoccer33 wrote:
Sarcastic wrote:Kmart has a 42 inch RCA plasma for $199.

http://www.theblackfriday.com/ads/kmart/kmart-black-friday-ad1.shtml


I would definitely buy that 2 year agreement. I can't tell you how many RCA tvs went bad sitting on our shelves. The speakers in them are the worst too.


Probably true. I haven't owned an RCA TV in 20 years myself.


RCA as a manufacturer does not exist - it is a brand name that different manufacturers license to stick on their products. RCA grabs your attention more than Coby or Craig. Different "RCA products" like dvd players, televisions, and universal remotes are all made by different companies.
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby DelPen on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:06 pm

So Walmart is garunteeing Ipad 2's on sale, bluray players for $39 and 37" Tv's for $149 that they will be in stock tomorrow night or you will get a rain check garunteeing store drop off before Christmas. That will get a lot of people in the store and it looks like they realized that the foot traffic is worth giving out rain checks to keep people happy.
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby pittsoccer33 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:11 pm

Sarcastic wrote:pittsoccer, with what Amazon and Walmart are doing, is there anything BB can do? Is it only about the price or is also BB in need of creating some loyalty among customers?


Best Buy's former CEO (the one with the affair) was huge on market share - sell it at any price, just make sure we sell it and not somebody else. You can see that's not working for them. Even 5+ years ago - they were NOT making any money on electronics - they were making it CDs/DVDs and car audio installs. Remember, tape decks were still standard in cars until sometime in the last 10 years. People wanted CD players in their cars and were scared to do it themselves. Now cars come with somewhat premium stereo equipment that allows USB drive and ipod/mp3 connection.

One idea they are floating now is to buy a brand - like how Sears owns Kenmore. It would take a huge amount of money, but they must have though about buying Vizio. They aren't a manufacturer (which is a game BBY does not want to be involved with) and that would give them instant brand credibility and could lock their rivals out of selling it. Oppo is another one that comes to mind. The article I read mentioned JVC and Hitatchi.

Brands can have loyalty on different levels than a store can. The Samsung tvs that are on sale this weekend are almost universally junk - they are not "Samsung" per se, but few people are making a genuine quality distinction. They are saying "Samsung is a pretty good tv - these must be good too." But they aren't - the contrast sucks and the speakers suck. That loyalty is allowing them to sell for higher prices than comparative quality sets are.

Same with Sony - anyone in the know realizes Sony has made many very subpar products for years. But all all the brands we sold very few people came in saying "I definitely want Panasonic" or "I only want a Samsung." Plenty of people - including practically every foreigner I sold to - wanted nothing BUT a Sony. Whether it was a tv, camera, camcorder, or stereo, and regardless of what better products have cost less.
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby Sarcastic on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:28 pm

Do you know if Amazon or Walmart are making money with electronics? If yes, then what's the difference?
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby pittsoccer33 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:29 pm

Sarcastic wrote:Do you know if Amazon or Walmart making money with electronics? If yes, then what's the difference?


Amazon can get by with super thin margins. Walmart too to a lesser extent, but Walmart sells mostly lower end stuff that has a higher inherent margin.
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby Letang Is The Truth on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:29 pm

amazon doesn't have the same fixed cost structure that the big stores do so i imagine they are able to offset alot of their costs that way
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby pittsoccer33 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:32 pm

Letang Is The Truth wrote:amazon doesn't have the same fixed cost structure that the big stores do so i imagine they are able to offset alot of their costs that way


thats exactly true as well.

Amazon ships it once - from their warehouse to your home.

Best Buy ships it several times - from their receiving yard, to their local warehouse, to their store. And all the associated costs with sending boxes that large.

Walmart likewise has whats considered the best inventory management system in all of retail.
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby Sarcastic on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:39 pm

Sounds like they need to restructure.
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby mac5155 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:17 pm

DelPen wrote:So Walmart is garunteeing Ipad 2's on sale, bluray players for $39 and 37" Tv's for $149 that they will be in stock tomorrow night or you will get a rain check garunteeing store drop off before Christmas. That will get a lot of people in the store and it looks like they realized that the foot traffic is worth giving out rain checks to keep people happy.


Yep, albeit its only for 1 hour of the night. Plus, they don't have to ship a bajillion TVs to one store in a day, they can slowly ship them in for pickup.
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby mac5155 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:37 pm

From my fiancee- layaway line is about 50 feet long now, everyone is coming to put their stuff on layaway and then price match it on Friday.
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby FreeCandy44 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:51 pm

Guess whose going to Kmart 5am tonight to get a TV for a family member? LOL this boy sad man.
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby joopen on Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:06 am

I hate all the stores that are open tomorrow. Wish I had a list so that I wouldn't shop at any of them. Don't these people work enough for next to nothing.
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby Spangler on Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:21 am

To pittsoccer,

What brand of TV do you generally prefer? I always had the impression that Samsungs were quality TVs. Would it be Panasonic?

What about Toshiba? My friend, who is tech savy, raves about Toshiba products.
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby FreeCandy44 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:44 am

Fudge this....woke up at 4:30am and went to Kmart in North Versailles. Line was WAY to long for a 40 inch TV. I'm amazed people were out in force on this holiday. Slope at sheets got a latte and now I'm heading back to bed. Worst wake up ever.
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby pittsoccer33 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:25 am

Spangler wrote:To pittsoccer,

What brand of TV do you generally prefer? I always had the impression that Samsungs were quality TVs. Would it be Panasonic?

What about Toshiba? My friend, who is tech savy, raves about Toshiba products.


None of the major brands (Sony, LG, Samsung, Panasonic, Toshiba, Sharp, Vizio) make bad sets once you get past the entry price point models.

Sharp's Elite line are probably the nicest tvs available. They also cost more than a used Jetta. Panasonic's VT series is very highly regarded and are the nicest plasma tvs made.

Samsungs, especially the LEDs, have very saturated colors. Thats one reason they sell so well in the stores. Anyone who wants to get their tv ISF calibrated would not want to buy a Samsung because the colors arent "accurate." That doesnt mean they dont look great, but to the purest something is wrong with them.

Toshiba's brand rep always told us to sell their tvs by driving home the idea that they have the most desirable features (LED, 1080p, 120hz) at the best prices. We didn't carry any of their smart tvs or 3D. Though I found that they were not usually much less money than a comparable Samsung or LG that had internet connectivity.

I own a 2009 Panasonic plasma. If I were buying a new tv this year the internet features wouldnt matter much to me because I use an htpc - I think Samsung and LG have the best internet offerings. I would have to really think about whether I wanted a VT series Panasonic or an LG 8600 or 9600 LED. I like the way LG and Vizio do 3D on their LEDs the best.
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby blackjack68 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:07 am

I know you said the Samsung "003" models were the bottom, but is there any difference between 4003 and 5003?
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby pittsoccer33 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:03 am

with samsung:

400 series is 720p 60hz lcd

4000 is 720p 60hz led

500 is 1080p 60hz lcd

5000 is 1080p 60hz led

600 is 1080p 120hz lcd

6000 is 1080p 120hz led

7000, 8000, and 9000 are pretty similar in overall features but as they go up they have deeper contrast levels and more advanced motion procesors
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby viva la ben on Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:33 am

Sandisk Ultra 32 gig microSDHC class 10 memory card for $17.99
http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/tablet ... t#overview
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby Sarcastic on Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:54 pm

FreeCandy44 wrote:Fudge this....woke up at 4:30am and went to Kmart in North Versailles. Line was WAY to long for a 40 inch TV. I'm amazed people were out in force on this holiday. Slope at sheets got a latte and now I'm heading back to bed. Worst wake up ever.


There is no line at the Walmart I drove by while getting me some fresh bread at the bakery.

I decided not to go for the 40 inch Toshiba. I have no use for it.

btw, I feel for you. Honestly, last time I stood out in line for stuff was in the 80's and those were Iron Maiden tickets. It was an over-nighter and our moms drove by around 1AM to bring us coffee and blankets.

I love U, Mommy. <3
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby FreeCandy44 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:58 pm

Arrested development seasons 1-3 are 7.99 each at best buy.
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby blackjack68 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:11 pm

Drove past Toys R Us and WalMart after 8pm.

Toys R Us only letting in 10-20 people at a time.

Walmart lot was packed and all were in the store.

Then drove past Best Buy and there had to be over 100 people there. Funny since only the first 20 or so will get the Hot Deals.
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby FreeCandy44 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:35 pm

Can't you basically get the same prices on the stores online website? I mean if Walmart has a 24" TV for 78, couldn't you buy it for the same price online?
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby skullman80 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:47 pm

FreeCandy44 wrote:Can't you basically get the same prices on the stores online website? I mean if Walmart has a 24" TV for 78, couldn't you buy it for the same price online?


Some stores do "in store" pricing only.. so you have to go in.

Either way.. it's just silly.

I saw people lined up outside Target and the like on my way home from Thanksgiving dinners. What a bunch of morons.
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Re: 2012 Black Friday Deals And More

Postby FreeCandy44 on Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:53 pm

Ehh I unfortunately have to work tomorrow. So ill stop at best buy just to see if they have arrested development still for 7.99. If not hey no loss.
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