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Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby pittsoccer33 on Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:04 pm

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/lif ... rk-663954/

Still, as energy-guzzling 100-watt incandescent bulbs disappear from local store shelves in the first phase of a federal ban on all such bulbs -- passed by Congress during the Bush administration and in effect since January 2012 -- light-emitting diodes (LEDs) and compact fluorescent light bulbs (CFLs) are in our future, whether we like it or not.


I wonder if the reporter was smart enough to buy an enormous stash to handle the run this article creates.

I hate CFL because they aren't compatible with my networked dimmers.
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby mac5155 on Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:06 pm

I have about 50 100watt bulbs at home /paranoid
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby Tico Rick on Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:09 pm

So it's taken a year for this news to make it to the Post-Gazette?
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby pittsoccer33 on Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:10 pm

Tico Rick wrote:So it's taken a year for this news to make it to the Post-Gazette?


:lol:
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby Gaucho on Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:23 pm

Socialism where?
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby Willie Kool on Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:45 pm

Gaucho wrote:Socialism where?

Yeah, I came in here expecting subsidized (or maybe even free) bulbs. :(
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby Eismann on Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:55 pm

Lots of the new fangled hoo-diddies emit harmful radiation...Least, that's what the old guy at Wal*Mart tole me. Yep.
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby Factorial on Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:49 pm

Gaucho wrote:Socialism where?


Get with the program Gaucho. Anytime the government does anything you don't like it's "socialism".
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby pittsoccer33 on Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:10 pm

Factorial wrote:
Gaucho wrote:Socialism where?


Get with the program Gaucho. Anytime the government does anything you don't like it's "socialism".


man, then things are worse than I thought :(
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby Gaucho on Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:23 pm

pittsoccer33 wrote:
Factorial wrote:
Gaucho wrote:Socialism where?


Get with the program Gaucho. Anytime the government does anything you don't like it's "socialism".


man, then things are worse than I thought :(


Communism?
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:27 pm

Factorial wrote:
Gaucho wrote:Socialism where?


Get with the program Gaucho. Anytime the government does anything you don't like it's "socialism".


I get your point, but I absolutely HATE the phase out of incandescent light bulbs. Mass opposition to this isn't exactly limited to the United States....the European Union hasn't exactly responded favorably to it either. Not to mention the environmental hazards posed by the new CFLs with the amount of mercury that is contained within them.

There are PLENTY of reasons to not be in favor of the transition to CFLs, including quality of light, emitted radiation, mercury, performance, etc. Setting aside pittsoccer's (I'm assuming) joking topic subject, opposition to this certainly isn't illegitimate.
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby Gaucho on Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:28 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:opposition to this certainly isn't illegitimate.


Nope.
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby shafnutz05 on Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:29 pm

I should have said is legitimate....damn double negatives
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby Gaucho on Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:31 pm

I got what you said.
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby Willie Kool on Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:02 pm

shafnutz05 wrote:Not to mention the environmental hazards posed by the new CFLs with the amount of mercury that is contained within them.

There are PLENTY of reasons to not be in favor of the transition to CFLs, including quality of light, emitted radiation, mercury, performance, etc.


CFL's suck. LED is the future of lighting.



$200 for the first three bulbs and the bridge, which can control up to 50 bulbs. Individual bulbs for $60 each. Guess what I'm telling everyone I want for X-mas.
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby npv708 on Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:08 pm

I'm disappointed by the lack of light bulbs in this thread...

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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby Shyster on Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:40 pm

Thread needs more Remy:
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby DelPen on Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:03 am

This is more GE being in bed with the government which would be fascism. But really it's just stupidity. The toxic components of CFl are worse than incandescent. Much worse.
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby mac5155 on Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:45 am

I guess you're not supposed to just toss old CFL bulbs in the trash either?
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby Digitalgypsy66 on Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:00 am

I've been replacing incandescent bulbs with CFL bulbs in our house gradually over the last five years, and I still have incandescent bulbs that have outlasted several CFL bulbs already.

LED is the way to go, but they need to come down in price.
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby pittsoccer33 on Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:44 am

Willie Kool wrote:
shafnutz05 wrote:Not to mention the environmental hazards posed by the new CFLs with the amount of mercury that is contained within them.

There are PLENTY of reasons to not be in favor of the transition to CFLs, including quality of light, emitted radiation, mercury, performance, etc.


CFL's suck. LED is the future of lighting.



$200 for the first three bulbs and the bridge, which can control up to 50 bulbs. Individual bulbs for $60 each. Guess what I'm telling everyone I want for X-mas.


Thats very cool. Similar to what I have in my place. Several years ago a friend and I were trying to think of ways to get "green jobs stimulus cash" and we came up with this idea.

There is still not one good open source platform to develop this on. Android@Home could be it. If I won the lottery last night I'd be hiring CMU computer science students to get cracking on it.
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby Sarcastic on Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:11 pm

I started using the new bulbs and I don't see much difference. It's just light to me. But I was disappointed when one went dead after less than a year when it was supposed to last 5.
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby Shyster on Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:46 pm

I’ve been using CFLs for years and generally don’t mind the light output. I my experience, however, is that the advertised lifetimes are vastly overstated. I’ve had some CFLs last less than what one would get from a regular bulb. From what I’ve read, CFL’s do best in applications where the light will be turned on and left on for fairly long lengths of time. An application where it will be turned on and off frequently or only be on for short periods will greatly shorten its life, possibly to the point where there would be no savings versus a conventional bulb. For that reason, I’ve actually switched some of the CFLs in my house back to regular bulbs (or halogen versions).
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby mac5155 on Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:57 pm

Shyster wrote:I’ve been using CFLs for years and generally don’t mind the light output. I my experience, however, is that the advertised lifetimes are vastly overstated. I’ve had some CFLs last less than what one would get from a regular bulb. From what I’ve read, CFL’s do best in applications where the light will be turned on and left on for fairly long lengths of time. An application where it will be turned on and off frequently or only be on for short periods will greatly shorten its life, possibly to the point where there would be no savings versus a conventional bulb. For that reason, I’ve actually switched some of the CFLs in my house back to regular bulbs (or halogen versions).


Flourescent bulbs are best suited to be turned on and left on because of the coating that is on them that produces the light. When the power hits the ballast, the gas radiates heat which that coating turns into visible light. That coating is burned off after each start. So, the less starts you have theoretically the more burn hours you should get out of a light but the more it will cost to power it.
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Re: Light Bulb Socialism!

Postby Factorial on Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:17 pm

npv708 wrote:I'm disappointed by the lack of light bulbs in this thread...


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