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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 6)

Postby Dan H on Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:58 pm

Gaucho wrote:Overall, [Errey] appeared in 572 games for the Pens (9th all time), scoring 132 goals and adding 140 assists.

...and he's the discoverer of the famous truth that 3 ass = 1 goal.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 6)

Postby Gaucho on Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:16 pm

dman66 wrote:I have a couple guys I would want to pick right now. We'll see how it works out.


Well, go ahead. :wink:
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 6)

Postby Rylan on Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:34 pm

Snarky Gaucho. Very snarky.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 6)

Postby Gaucho on Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:48 pm

Snarky? But not st all, why?
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 6)

Postby Rylan on Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:52 pm

I am using the term loosely my friend, very loosely.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 6)

Postby Gaucho on Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:56 pm

Ok, I was under the impression that being snarky is usually offensive.

But dman's last comment made we wonder if he's aware he's up next.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 6)

Postby dman66 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:01 pm

Gaucho wrote:Ok, I was under the impression that being snarky is usually offensive.

But dman's last comment made we wonder if he's aware he's up next.


Ah crap. I've been sitting here all day. Didn't even realize it was my pick. I'll have them shortly :oops:
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 6)

Postby Gaucho on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:02 pm

No worries.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 6)

Postby Rylan on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:09 pm

:lol: yea dman its all good. Its the weekend, didn't expect much to happen.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 6)

Postby dman66 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:09 pm

With the 36th pick in the Pens All Time Draft, the Left Wing Locks are pleased to select:

Right Wing - #44 Rob Brown

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Accomplishments with the Pens:
3 Seasons with 20+ goals (24 in 1988, 49 in 1989, and 22 in 1990)
1989 All Star
5th in NHL in points in 1989

Place in Pens History:
27th in points per game
15th in goals
18th in points

Brown road Lemieux's coattails for an almost 50g campaign. In his 2nd stint with the Pens, he was more bottom 6 winger, and didn't do a bad job at filling that role. While Brown could use some better hair plugs, he was a talented player that had obvious chemistry with Lemieux during his first stint here. He also dated Alyssa Milano, so good for him on that.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 6)

Postby dman66 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:10 pm

Rylan wrote::lol: yea dman its all good. Its the weekend, didn't expect much to happen.


This is going way faster than I expected haha. And with the two picks back to back, I figured there would be a lot of wait time. I'll have the next pick in a second.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 6)

Postby MRandall25 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:14 pm

Figured you were gonna be the one to take Rob Brown, since without Lemieux, he was nothing :pop: :D
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 6)

Postby dman66 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:18 pm

With the first pick of the 7th round, the Left Wing Locks are pleased to select:

Center - #20 Robert Lang

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Lang had 3 seasons of 20+ goals with the Pens as well as a season of 18g. He posted career highs in goals and points in 2000-2001. He was part of the KLS line with Kovalev and Straka.

Ranks in Pens history:
27th in goals
27th in assists
27th in points
34th in points per game

Lang is a viable 2nd center for Lowell MacDonald.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 6)

Postby dman66 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:20 pm

MRandall25 wrote:Figured you were gonna be the one to take Rob Brown, since without Lemieux, he was nothing :pop: :D


:D Yeah, pretty much haha. Without Rob Brown, there is no Down Goes Brown, but that's outside of what happened when he was a Pen. I was too young to remember his first stint, but his second stint wasn't bad at all. He was able to adapt his game well. And who can forget this:
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 7)

Postby mikey287 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:27 pm

Well, that's one argument out the door. I thought someone was going to use Rob Brown without Mario and I would have probably taken an issue with that. But he's right where he belongs, actually, check that, he's right where he has to be I believe. I agree that Lang is a good fit with Lowell MacDonald, MacDonald works well as kind of a glue guy for the far-from-industrious Lang...
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 7)

Postby MRandall25 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:30 pm

I just gotta hope the player I realized would be a great fit for me slides down. One can only hope.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 7)

Postby Gaucho on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:48 pm

Still debating with myself, give me another minute...
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 7)

Postby Rylan on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:51 pm

Hey mikey I think this could be a fun offseason thing to do, maybe not necessarily with just the Pens. Maybe do some other teams in NHR games or something?
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 7)

Postby MRandall25 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:54 pm

Rylan wrote:Hey mikey I think this could be a fun offseason thing to do, maybe not necessarily with just the Pens. Maybe do some other teams in NHR games or something?


As in an All-Time draft, or a re-draft of current players?
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 7)

Postby Rylan on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:57 pm

I would just pick a team (either Original 6 or early Expansion era) and go from there. Its educational AND fun.

Could do it by decade I suppose, but then you start getting too talented a pool of players. I like having to delve into the depths of a team's history to find a solid 3rd line winger or perhaps an unsung hero type. Makes it more interesting than a team of all stars.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 7)

Postby mikey287 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:05 pm

Other "project" - more of a game - considered was:

The NHL contracts down to the Original Six once more and every player becomes a free agent...then we hold a dispersal draft. Basically, six teams draft all current players. Follow-up could be a "minor league" draft, six "AHL" clubs select from the remaining crop. Was not intended to be a history project.

An all-time draft is one hell of a venture. I've been a part of them (well, actually, my first will be coming up in a couple months...but I've done the two drafts after that...meaning, say, 1000 players are picked in the All-Time Draft...I did the 800 after that and the ~300 or so after that). In my first go at it - against many veteran history studiers - I was voted to have had a top-2 team...much to my surprise. As I felt I was in way over my head. Still waiting the results of the next draft. Not wild about my team, but my God is it fast.

Anyway, enough about my noise, these things are tough. And for them to be done right (by "right", I mean, within any sort of reason) it's a near full-time job :lol:

If I do something like that, I really would want it to be done right...perhaps we could do a small one if there's some interest when the time comes. I'm worried about finishing this first and foremost. I'm glad that there's interest in this and history in general.

EDIT: Oh, you mean just doing another team? Yeah, that wouldn't be too terrible. I'm not sure I would do an O6 quite yet. Small steps. But whatever the group wants to do, I think I could handle and would devote some time towards.

Note: By decade doesn't really work. Arbitrary cut-offs confuse. Gerrymandering.

EDIT2: Other ideas to consider. Using draft classes (the best of the 1980's, for instance) and using expansion classes of teams (the best players from 1979: Quebec/Colorado, Hartford/Carolina, Edmonton, Winnipeg/Phoenix). Lots to consider.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 7)

Postby Gaucho on Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:14 pm

Ok, I guess at this point you're not going to find a player without any "buts" attached to him. In this case, the but would be "but he's only played in 168 games for the Pens". So what.

Petr Nedved, C

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Regulars season: 145 GP, 78 G, 92 A, 170 P. Playoffs: 23 GP, 11 G, 12 A, 23 P.

A great skater with tremendous offensive skill, Nedved had 2 fantastic seasons with the Pens, including a legendary overtime goal in the playoffs against the Caps, before he decided to hold out for more money. Not cool, but he was eventually traded for Alexei Kovalev.

Petr Nedved played LW for the Pens, and that's where I want him, too: on Crosby's wing.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 7)

Postby mikey287 on Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:18 pm

Yup, with such a shallow pool you quickly drive yourself nuts with "well, this guy didn't play defense...and this guy only scored with Mario and I don't have a Mario...and this guy didn't have hands...and this guy turned out not to be 'the answer'..."

This is where your team-building skills and planning come into effect. Protect weak players, put a player in a situation to succeed or find one that can.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 7)

Postby Rylan on Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:22 pm

I definitely wouldn't be against a the draft classes or expansion classes. Definitely would allow some creative freedom.

All time drafts would be overwhelming.

As would O6 now that I think about it.

But I think we have more interest than the 7 or 8 that applied for the roles.
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Re: Pittsburgh Penguins All-Time Draft - (Round 7)

Postby Gaucho on Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:23 pm

Scratch that, Nedved will play center for now.
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