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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby malkinshair on Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:42 pm

TheHammer24 wrote:
GaryRissling wrote:I don't get it. Is this the first time a shooting like this has occurred at an elementary school? What could possibly motivate someone to kill innocent kids? As twisted as it is, I can somewhat fathom the the psychology involved in a high school shooting; but an elementary school??

Yeah. At least you could trace the Bridgeville gym shooting to the shooter's inability to deal with young, pretty women. Psychotic, yes. Justifiable, not even close. Deserving of torture, absolutely. But traceable? Sure--you kind of got it.

Kindergarteners are the most innocent people in the world. They bring joy to all. How in the world could anyone harbor animus--even irrational animus--towards young children.


It may not have been the actual children per se...they/he just wanted to inflict as much pain as possible.
So sad.
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby eddysnake on Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:44 pm

Image

can't even imagine the parents trying to get to their kids at the school through all this
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby Alejandro Rojas on Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:45 pm

The media makes me ill.
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby cheesesteakwithegg on Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:45 pm

This is so heartbreaking. I can't even bring myself to read much about this, as hearing about these innocent children just shatters me inside.
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby shmenguin on Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:48 pm

cheesesteakwithegg wrote:This is so heartbreaking. I can't even bring myself to read much about this, as hearing about these innocent children just shatters me inside.


yeah, i have some initial curiosity, but i'm not really interested in following this story over the next couple weeks
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby rasbatch on Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:49 pm

Alejandro Rojas wrote:The media makes me ill.

You know you can turn it off.
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby Troy Loney on Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:55 pm

Jesse wrote:The media won't learn from its past mistakes. They'll do what they always do. Post this guys mug and name all over the place, interview his neighbors, his parents, his high school classmates, his gas station attendant, they'll post pics of his house and apartment, talk about his guns, talk about his childhood.

When will we stop glorifying these psychopaths as anti-heroes? I don't want to know his name. I don't want to see his face. I don't give a rats behind what his mom has to say, or his neighbors.

Make him anonymous ghost. Stop giving publicity out. You'd think this country would learn after the Virginia Tech killer said that he was happy about the publicity he'd receive for the killing.

Sensationalism is at an all time high in this country. Media is a vulture. They're out there right now interviewing NINE YEAR OLD KIDS about what happened. I don't know how these producers can sleep at night. They should be ashamed of themselves.


I'm curious as to know what this guy's deal is, but I certainly don't need to hear people who know him give an account. I think it's probably somewhat important to know some traits and patterns of the people that commit these atrocities.
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby Rylan on Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:56 pm

I don't care about these guy(s) anymore. The death of the kids is saddening, but that is where my thoughts end.
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby tfrizz on Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:58 pm

Troy Loney wrote:
Jesse wrote:The media won't learn from its past mistakes. They'll do what they always do. Post this guys mug and name all over the place, interview his neighbors, his parents, his high school classmates, his gas station attendant, they'll post pics of his house and apartment, talk about his guns, talk about his childhood.

When will we stop glorifying these psychopaths as anti-heroes? I don't want to know his name. I don't want to see his face. I don't give a rats behind what his mom has to say, or his neighbors.

Make him anonymous ghost. Stop giving publicity out. You'd think this country would learn after the Virginia Tech killer said that he was happy about the publicity he'd receive for the killing.

Sensationalism is at an all time high in this country. Media is a vulture. They're out there right now interviewing NINE YEAR OLD KIDS about what happened. I don't know how these producers can sleep at night. They should be ashamed of themselves.


I'm curious as to know what this guy's deal is, but I certainly don't need to hear people who know him give an account. I think it's probably somewhat important to know some traits and patterns of the people that commit these atrocities.


It is important, but not to the general public. Criminologists and behavioural psychologists, on the other hand, can use that kind of data to help distinguish identifying traits for problem individuals - that's much more useful for the general public.
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby tfrizz on Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:59 pm

Rylan wrote:I don't care about these guy(s) anymore. The death of the kids is saddening, but that is where my thoughts end.


I can't help but be intrigued. I took a lot of elective courses centred around psychology, sociology, and criminology (and anthropology, but that doesn't apply to an incident like this) while in university.
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby MRandall25 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:03 pm

Alejandro Rojas wrote:
GaryRissling wrote:I don't get it. Is this the first time a shooting like this has occurred at an elementary school? What could possibly motivate someone to kill innocent kids? As twisted as it is, I can somewhat fathom the the psychology involved in a high school shooting; but an elementary school??


Jonesboro shooting in the late 90's was at an Elementary school.


There was one in Scotland as well. A former teacher or something. Still...
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby columbia on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:06 pm

Were these children interviewed on camera without the knowledge of their parents?

If so, that's pretty exploitive.
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby Alejandro Rojas on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:06 pm

I can't imagine they had time to ask their parents permission.
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby Alejandro Rojas on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:11 pm

@JesseRodriguez: NBC's Pete Williams: One of the parents of the school shooting suspect has been found dead in NJ
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby mac5155 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:13 pm

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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby Mr. Colby on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:18 pm

I'm so sick to my stomach... this is just so unfair
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby Mr. Colby on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:19 pm

If your 7 year old child isn't safe at his elementary school, where is he safe?
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby Alejandro Rojas on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:23 pm

@TheMatthewKeys: CBS News confirms CT gunman's mother was a teacher at the elementary school, she is among those dead
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby DelPen on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:25 pm

Mr. Colby wrote:If your 7 year old child isn't safe at his elementary school, where is he safe?


Being homeschooled
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby mac5155 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:26 pm

I wonder if the second gunman wasn't actually a "gunman" but someone trying to help.
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby yubb on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:26 pm

mac5155 wrote:


That's very well said.
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby Mr. Colby on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:26 pm

I get what those are saying that there was at least some sort of rationalization for the Columbine shooters... there is no way to rationalize murdering a group of 7 year olds, the innocent of the innocent
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby llipgh2 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:28 pm

mac5155 wrote:I wonder if the second gunman wasn't actually a "gunman" but someone trying to help.


CBS said the cops saw a man in the woods near the school dressed in camo pants and a dark jacket, and basically took him in for questioning.

According to parents on the scene, he looked them in the eyes and said "I had nothing to do with this."
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby Rylan on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:29 pm

There is nowhere safe. Give up the notion that anywhere is completely safe.
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Re: Breaking: School shooting in CT

Postby llipgh2 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:30 pm

Rylan wrote:There is nowhere safe. Give up the notion that anywhere is completely safe.


Unfortunately people seem not to get that.

I'll see college aged girls out running alone at 11 at night and think "Are you insane?"
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