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shafnutz05 wrote:I don't mind a lot of the celebrating, but the one that irritates me to no end is when they get a first down, hold the ball out, and drop it. Toss it to the official you showboating ****, congratulations on your 8 yard gain on a 3rd and 6

shafnutz05 wrote:I don't mind a lot of the celebrating, but the one that irritates me to no end is when they get a first down, hold the ball out, and drop it. Toss it to the official you showboating ****, congratulations on your 8 yard gain on a 3rd and 6

Troy Loney wrote:shafnutz05 wrote:I don't mind a lot of the celebrating, but the one that irritates me to no end is when they get a first down, hold the ball out, and drop it. Toss it to the official you showboating ****, congratulations on your 8 yard gain on a 3rd and 6
Those are definitely terrible, but in my opinion the most egregious offenses are definsive players celebrating a tackle after a decent offensive gain and special teams players celebrating after hitting the guy with the ball on a kick return.


ExPatriatePen wrote:Troy Loney wrote:shafnutz05 wrote:I don't mind a lot of the celebrating, but the one that irritates me to no end is when they get a first down, hold the ball out, and drop it. Toss it to the official you showboating ****, congratulations on your 8 yard gain on a 3rd and 6
Those are definitely terrible, but in my opinion the most egregious offenses are definsive players celebrating a tackle after a decent offensive gain and special teams players celebrating after hitting the guy with the ball on a kick return.
Funny, I'm so against celebrations in general, but I have no problem with a special teams player (particulary on the kickoff coverage team) getting up from a solo tackle, doing a fist pump and fellow teammates slapping him on the helmet or whatever. (a dance routine or something would be over the top)
Two reasons I feel this way:
1) Special teams guys are typically fighting for starting "O" or especially "D" jobs. Doing something big like an open field tackle on a kickoff coverage unit could mean an opportunity to get noticed.
2) Have you ever tried to make an open field tackle on a man running a "full steam"? One of the hardest athletic tasks I ever attempted.

Godric wrote:ExPatriatePen wrote:Fire0nice228 wrote:I strongly dislike Brown (and any player really) that showboats after every play. "act like you've been there before"
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Look at the great ones:
Jim Brown
Jerry Rice
Franco Harris
Walter Payton
Maybe there was a corolation between their performance and the way they acted?
Here's a quote from Jim Brown: (After the Bills Stevie Johnson celebrated by pretending to shot himself in the leg ala. Plax)"It's an example of ignorance. Pure ignorance. There's no upside to it. It's self-serving ignorance. The bottom line is, any intelligent person realizes that until the game is over there's nothing to celebrate. ... And it means that you are not concentrating on winning, and then you can lose the game. Or, you can drop the ball, as [Johnson] did [later]. Now where's the celebration? So all of a sudden you can't hold the ball and now what do you want your teammates to do? Should they celebrate you dropping the ball? So like I said, there's no upside. It's ignorance, and I don't even know how players can stoop to being so ignorant that they can hurt their team after something that's been successful. That is as bad as it gets. To me there's no other side of the story. There's no two sides of this story. It's a terrible, terrible lack of intelligence."
Lol
I love how you leave out Dieon Sanders, Terrell Owens and Randy Moss .... Those boys weren't slouches and loved to celebrate.
It's pretty pathetic anyone would question the intelligence of TO, Sanders, or Moss... You don't get to be pinnacles of success in their positions for a decade a piece without a strong mind and unreal dedication
Do you people ***** and moan whenever Malkin celebrates?

Froggy wrote:I didn't realize that if it's a 3 way tie with the steelers, ravens, and Bengals, we actually win the 3 way tie breakers, and win the division

Godric wrote:It's pretty pathetic anyone would question the intelligence of TO, Sanders, or Moss... You don't get to be pinnacles of success in their positions for a decade a piece without a strong mind and unreal dedication



skullman80 wrote:Terrell Owens is also going to be a HOF receiver, and rightfully so.

shafnutz05 wrote:skullman80 wrote:Terrell Owens is also going to be a HOF receiver, and rightfully so.
Of course, but I was refuting Godric's point that to be a HOF receiver you have to be an intelligent person. That is light years from the truth

itissteeltime wrote:Check out Boise State football. After a TD the coach makes them hand (not toss) the ball to the ref, and jog off the field. I think it's classy and respectable. I'm a Boise fan because of it.

Froggy wrote:I didn't realize that if it's a 3 way tie with the steelers, ravens, and Bengals, we actually win the 3 way tie breakers, and win the division



Troy Loney wrote:Well boys, better pack it in, there's always next year.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3912/willie-colon
DeCastro and Ramon Foster are more than adequate enough if Pittsburgh balks at paying Colon's $5.5 million salary for 2013.


Troy Loney wrote:If I were a gambling man, I'd put my money on the Bengals winning the division. Ravens and Steelers are both poo right now.

blackjack68 wrote:Troy Loney wrote:If I were a gambling man, I'd put my money on the Bengals winning the division. Ravens and Steelers are both poo right now.
But the Bengals are still from Ohio!

itissteeltime wrote:Check out Boise State football. After a TD the coach makes them hand (not toss) the ball to the ref, and jog off the field. I think it's classy and respectable. I'm a Boise fan because of it.
I also enjoy the absolutely outrageous celebrations, that 85 and TO provide us with.
I don't like anything in the middle though. Either jog off the field, or leave me laughing.

shafnutz05 wrote:Godric wrote:It's pretty pathetic anyone would question the intelligence of TO, Sanders, or Moss... You don't get to be pinnacles of success in their positions for a decade a piece without a strong mind and unreal dedication
Terrell Owens is an idiot....that's why he is bankrupt.

Troy Loney wrote:shafnutz05 wrote:I don't mind a lot of the celebrating, but the one that irritates me to no end is when they get a first down, hold the ball out, and drop it. Toss it to the official you showboating ****, congratulations on your 8 yard gain on a 3rd and 6
Those are definitely terrible, but in my opinion the most egregious offenses are definsive players celebrating a tackle after a decent offensive gain and special teams players celebrating after hitting the guy with the ball on a kick return.

tifosi77 wrote:Troy Loney wrote:shafnutz05 wrote:I don't mind a lot of the celebrating, but the one that irritates me to no end is when they get a first down, hold the ball out, and drop it. Toss it to the official you showboating ****, congratulations on your 8 yard gain on a 3rd and 6
Those are definitely terrible, but in my opinion the most egregious offenses are definsive players celebrating a tackle after a decent offensive gain and special teams players celebrating after hitting the guy with the ball on a kick return.
I have no problem with the special teams guys going ballistic when they make a play. For many of those guys, that's the only way they stay in the NFL. And it requires a certain personality or mindset (like being a hockey goalie). I want my special teams guy to be a little..... excitable. (basically everything ExPat said)
And wasn't Santonio Holmes the first guy to do the first-down-ball-drop thing Shaf is talking about?


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