Official 2012-13 Pirates Off-Season Thread

[pfim]

What I still can't figure out, is why McLouth couldn't do anything here, and then went crazy at Baltimore.

I always have the feeling that it's this way with a lot of players. Is it the coaching or what's going on?

I wouldn't say he "went crazy." He just isn't a very good player, had an average run in Baltimore.

[SolidSnake]

I thought he played extremely well for Baltimore

[Rocco]

I thought he played extremely well for Baltimore

.268/.342/.435. Compared to what he did in Pittsburgh, he was Babe Ruth, but he wasn't exactly Jose Bautista 2.0.

[ulf]

He'd probably still be a pirate if he put up a .777 OPS here

[pfim]

He'd probably still be a pirate if he put up a .777 OPS here

Or a Brave if he did the same in Atlanta.

He got a one year deal after this season at a very modest raise, don't think anyone believes his production is sustainable over a full season.

[Rocco]

He'd probably still be a pirate if he put up a .777 OPS here

Well, yes, because then he'd have been competent with the Bucs. He was well south of competent, and Hurdle was going to keep sending him up to fail unless NH took McLouth away from him. We saw this pattern repeat itself through the season with Bedard, Juan Cruz, Qualls and Carcass.

[ulf]

Yeah not disagreeing with any of that.

[JS©]

‎"I'm gonna watch the ball drop in New York" - every Pirates outfielder, 1992-2012

[FreeCandy44]

LOL...I thought someone was going to go with the old "2013 pirates are mathematically eliminated from world series" joke already.

[Mr. Colby]

Haha js didn't waste any time

[Rocco]

The year in Clint Hurdle's face.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/a/19286

[Troy Loney]

Skin cancer?

[shafnutz05]

At least we have the most charming outfielder in baseball:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/summeranne/andrew-mccutchen-is-the-most-charming-baseball-pla

[FreeCandy44]

At least we have the most charming outfielder in baseball:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/summeranne/andrew-mccutchen-is-the-most-charming-baseball-pla

RTJR?

[Idoit40fans]

After Andruw Jones. He knows how to talk to the ladies. Oh wait, he's employed in Japan. Carry on.

[canaan]

Pirates asking for release papers for van den hurk so he can sign with a foreign club

[Mr. Colby]

Van den Derp

[Mr. Colby]

Mini camp is occurring right now, which I didn't even know existed #mlb13cutch

[pittsports87]

Rob Biertempfel ‏@BiertempfelTrib
LHP Francisco Liriano injured right arm in Dec. #Pirates continue to talk to agent, but no deal imminent

So we didn't even really sign him yet and he's hurt. Pirates pitching going to be a whole bunch of suck this year.

[KennyTheKangaroo]

Gr8.

[thehockeyguru]

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/mlb-rumors/21516420/yankees-interested-in-mike-morse

Michael Morse please.

[Troy Loney]

Gr8.

What's going on with Karstens? Should probably bring him in for depth.

[FreeCandy44]

Rob Biertempfel ‏@BiertempfelTrib
LHP Francisco Liriano injured right arm in Dec. #Pirates continue to talk to agent, but no deal imminent

So we didn't even really sign him yet and he's hurt. Pirates pitching going to be a whole bunch of suck this year.

paging Dr Andrews...

[MRandall25]

Rob Biertempfel ‏@BiertempfelTrib
LHP Francisco Liriano injured right arm in Dec. #Pirates continue to talk to agent, but no deal imminent

So we didn't even really sign him yet and he's hurt. Pirates pitching going to be a whole bunch of suck this year.

Did someone pick up that phone?

Spoiler:

BECAUSE I CALLED IT!

[Letang Is The Truth]

alert the news. the perpetually injured player is injured.