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Re: Lockout

Postby AlexPKeaton on Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:59 am

At least the Flyers won't be able to pull any shenanigans with Giroux's contract now.
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Re: Lockout

Postby pittsports87 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:03 pm

FreeCandy44 wrote:WOOHOO! I can't wait for hockey. So did they actually expand the playoffs to 20 teams? Or will it still be 16?

Doing it NCAAB style starting 2013-2014. All 30 teams make it along with the top 2 teams in the KHL.
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Re: Lockout

Postby newarenanow on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:07 pm

HOCKEY BABY!
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Re: Lockout

Postby SDPen77 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:09 pm

Yes! This is great news. I cannot wait to watch live hockey again.
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Re: Lockout

Postby SolidSnake on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:10 pm

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Re: Lockout

Postby Myriad on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:12 pm

I'm mad that the Flyers are going to be able to buy out Bryz's terrible contract
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Re: Lockout

Postby penny lane on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:34 pm

Josh Yohe ‏@JoshYohe_Trib
A Craig Adams phone call woke up Crosby at 5 a.m. He didn't mind. Will have the article posted shortly.

:P
Thanks Craig Adams; thankless job beings the team's rep; especially this year! Although, I could see Adams staying in the business end of hockey. Harvard grad, et al.
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Re: Lockout

Postby MRandall25 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:35 pm

Tim Thomasen wrote:Pierre LeBrun‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Last huge issue at the 11th hour was Year 2 cap. Players wouldn't budge off $64.3 M and league finally gave in at the end


Was looking for news on this. This is a good thing.
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Re: Lockout

Postby TheHammer24 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:40 pm

I'll be watching wearing my Pens jersey from game 1 to the last game they play. The i'll-show-them-this-time mentality is short sighted. Why punish yourself? The fans on the periphery will leave as will the sponsors. That will punish the NHL and hopefully that teaches them a lesson. But the core fans (us) and sponsors (e.g., Reebok, NBC) will stay because we have to. We love the sport too much and they need the sport too much. But that's not where the money comes from---they need to expand the league and that's where they took the hit.

For us, just watch and cheer.

God this feels good:

LET'S GO PENS!
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Re: Lockout

Postby TheHammer24 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:43 pm

I'm really interested in reading how this will affect existing contracts. I thought there was a one-time rollback, but it looks like I'm wrong. I still refuse to think the Pens are in that bad of shape relative to the other contenders under this deal. My only intuition on why it could be problematic is the Sid/Geno contracts are now too high.
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Re: Lockout

Postby Fire0nice228 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:45 pm

TheHammer24 wrote:I'm really interested in reading how this will affect existing contracts. I thought there was a one-time rollback, but it looks like I'm wrong. I still refuse to think the Pens are in that bad of shape relative to the other contenders under this deal. My only intuition on why it could be problematic is the Sid/Geno contracts are now too high.


For a few years maybe, but I would think the cap is tied to revenues and will go back up, right?
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Re: Lockout

Postby MRandall25 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:46 pm

If this year were next year, the Pens would still be ~ $4.3 mil under the cap. Looking at capgeek, the Pens will be about $11.7 mil below the cap, with no FA's signed.

I don't think we need to worry, and that's why I'm happy about the $64.3 mil cap.
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Re: Lockout

Postby pens#1 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:49 pm

Are the new division alignments starting this season?
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Re: Lockout

Postby tifosi77 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:50 pm

the wicked child wrote:
Bowser wrote:* Contract variance cannot exceed 35% from year to year or 50% over any two year period of the deal.

That is a lot different than "the last year can't vary more than 50% from the first"... don't think I like that if it's true.

I think your interpretation is the correct one; the final year of a contract cannot be less than 50% of the highest single contract year compensation. Otherwise it wouldn't really make sense in the context of the 35% stipulation.
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Re: Lockout

Postby TheHammer24 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:52 pm

lol wrong post!
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Re: Lockout

Postby mikey287 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:54 pm

pens#1 wrote:Are the new division alignments starting this season?


No. And you say "the new division alignments" as if they exist...they do not. Some suggest that Winnipeg will remain in the east not only this year, but also next. We'll see about that...but at least this season, no change, AIUI...
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Re: Lockout

Postby nocera on Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:01 pm

Is there any chance this falls through?
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Re: Lockout

Postby pens#1 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:01 pm

mikey287 wrote:
pens#1 wrote:Are the new division alignments starting this season?


No. And you say "the new division alignments" as if they exist...they do not. Some suggest that Winnipeg will remain in the east not only this year, but also next. We'll see about that...but at least this season, no change, AIUI...


the owners had them realigned but then the PA shot them down during last season- i wasnt sure if that was part of the new CBA. Has anyone heard anything concrete about season start date?
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Re: Lockout

Postby mikey287 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:31 pm

No sir, it was shot down and it is staying down for now, AIUI. Logistics still to be worked out, but January 15th is a realistic start date with 50-game schedule. That said, it's very non-committal right now, I have nothing concrete, personally.
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Re: Lockout

Postby penny lane on Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:33 pm

http://www.tsn.ca/toronto/listen/

fyi~ talking now about hockey.
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Re: Lockout

Postby America on Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:33 pm

nocera wrote:Is there any chance this falls through?

It would be absolutely devastating for the league now and into the future if something like this occurred.
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Re: Lockout

Postby newarenanow on Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:51 pm

Is the bloom off the lockouts rose?
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Re: Lockout

Postby DudeMan2766 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:54 pm

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Re: Lockout

Postby Steve on Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:02 pm

The NHL is back - I'm thrilled and mad at the same time. :lol:
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Re: Lockout

Postby Steve on Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:02 pm

newarenanow wrote:Is the bloom off the lockouts rose?


nice. :thumb:
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